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Welcome to the Tiggers - Daniel Butler

Would like to see butler further up the ground. Could he be the speedy half back we need?

Has nice foot skills and great speed, unsure what he is like defensively.
 
MD Jazz said:
Would like to see butler further up the ground. Could he be the speedy half back we need?

Has nice foot skills and great speed, unsure what he is like defensively.

Don't fix something that ain't broke.

For all Rioli's plaudits, Butler is our most consistent small forward.
 
Don't know who the quickest is but I reckon Dan uses it more effectively than anyone else on the list.

He knows when to take them on and his closing speed in a chase is great viewing.
 
caesar said:
Would love to know who has the title as quickest player on our list? Reckon it is out of Butler, Shai and Rioli. Don't know who to give it to myself.
Dusty is very deceptive, he'd be snapping at there heels.
 
Not sure the 20 meter sprint test equates to game day quickness ,(they are now scrapping it from this years combine), I reckon the repeat 6 X 30 and agility tests a better indication. Anyway 20 meter results I could find are:

Shai 2.95
Grimes 2.95
Drummond 2.93
Dustin Martin 2.89
Rioli 2.89
Menadue 2.88
Markove 2.87

Could not find Shorty or Butler did they compete in combine?

As a comparison Danger was 2.92 and Gary Rohan 2.93.

These all pale into insignificance when you consider our best performed from what I could find, David Gourdis ;D 2.83 sec. now here was an athletic freak also got no#1 in vertical leap & high in agility. Pity he wasn't a very good footballer I thought we had struck gold with this pre-season pick.
 
caesar said:
Not sure the 20 meter sprint test equates to game day quickness ,(they are now scrapping it from this years combine), I reckon the repeat 6 X 30 and agility tests a better indication. Anyway 20 meter results I could find are:

Shai 2.95
Grimes 2.95
Dustin Martin 2.95
Drummond 2.93
Rioli 2.89
Menadue 2.88
Markove 2.87

Could not find Shorty or Butler did they compete in combine?

As a comparison Danger was 2.92 and Gary Rohan 2.93.

These all pale into insignificance when you consider our best performed from what I could find, David Gourdis ;D 2.83 sec. now here was an athletic freak also got no#1 in vertical leap & high in agility. Pity he wasn't a very good footballer I thought we had struck gold with this pre-season pick.
Where did you get those stats caesar?
Top end sports have Dusty down as 2.89. I knew he was quick, but wow that's quick!!
 
caesar said:
Would love to know who has the title as quickest player on our list? Reckon it is out of Butler, Shai and Rioli. Don't know who to give it to myself.

It's all relative to what distance (or type of surface) you're talking about. Sprinting over 100m will produce different results to over 20m. For the 20m sprint shows acceleration from a standing start but favours the lighter and more agile athlete. Many could beat Usain Bolt over this distance, but NOT over 100m where he will leave them for dead once the long levers of this 195cm frame man hit top gear.

Think Markov and Menadue would go very well over 100m, and some say Drummond is the quickest at the club.
Castagna not slow either?
 
lamb22 said:
Don't know who the quickest is but I reckon Dan uses it more effectively than anyone else on the list.

He knows when to take them on and his closing speed in a chase is great viewing.

Butler is good at offensive running, but not close to Rioli with his defensive chase downs and pressure. Rioli is blistering and can run at high speed for longer. Exceptional athlete who will play and will dominate midfield before all others.
 
tigerman said:
Where did you get those stats caesar?
Top end sports have Dusty down as 2.89. I knew he was quick, but wow that's quick!!
My bad, Dusty was 2.89, (now corrected in my post).
 
caesar said:
Not sure the 20 meter sprint test equates to game day quickness ,(they are now scrapping it from this years combine), I reckon the repeat 6 X 30 and agility tests a better indication. Anyway 20 meter results I could find are:

Shai 2.95
Grimes 2.95
Drummond 2.93
Dustin Martin 2.89
Rioli 2.89
Menadue 2.88
Markove 2.87

Could not find Shorty or Butler did they compete in combine?

As a comparison Danger was 2.92 and Gary Rohan 2.93.

These all pale into insignificance when you consider our best performed from what I could find, David Gourdis ;D 2.83 sec. now here was an athletic freak also got no#1 in vertical leap & high in agility. Pity he wasn't a very good footballer I thought we had struck gold with this pre-season pick.
Jayden Short - 2.98
Butler didnt test at the combine due to injury.
 
Blind Charlie said:
Jayden Short - 2.98
Butler didnt test at the combine due to injury.

They tested Butler but he was too fast for observers to register a time.
 
EX-COACH BACKS BETTS, MILNE-LIKE BUTLER
By Brayden May Jun 8, 2017
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Three years is a long time in football.

In 2014, Dan Butler was just another kid dreaming of an AFL career.

Now, the kid described as “quiet” by his former North Ballarat Rebels coach David Loader is making waves in the AFL on a journey not too dissimilar to his time in the TAC Cup.

“He started where he is right now at Richmond, as a small opportunistic forward and, as he grew and filled out his body size, he became more of a midfield-type player for us,” he told aflplayers.com.au.

“He’s always possessed terrific athletic ability. His first five metres are exceptionally quick so he’s always been able to create separation from his direct opponent.

“Once he builds on his ability to do that over long periods of time, he’ll become a really damaging player.”

Long before Butler was selected by the Tigers with pick 67 in the 2014 national draft, the small forward developed his athletic capabilities through a different code.

ANATOMY OF A DEBUT – DAN BUTLER

While it didn’t take long for Butler to transfer his skills to the Aussie Rules field, Loader said Butler’s background in another sport has helped him become the player he is today.

“When he was younger, he had a strong soccer background which has helped him to become clever with his feet,” Loaded added.

“He is one of those players that can create something out of very little, and we’ve seen that at AFL level where he’s tapped the ball along with his feet to create an opportunity for himself or to bring someone else into the game.”

Although Loader and his coaching staff were always confident Butler would get an opportunity, there is one game which stands out as the moment he knew Butler could make it at the top level.

“We played the Queensland state side in Brisbane during Dan’s top-age year and he was having one of those quiet days so we put him in the middle after half-time,” Loader explained.

“He kicked the first two goals of the second half and set up the third just with his cleanness and pace out of the middle of the ground.

“That’s when I thought this kid has got AFL tendencies written all over him and we were all relatively confident he would get an opportunity.”

Despite making his debut in his third season at Tigerland, things weren’t all smooth sailing for Butler after battling knee issues in his first year at the club, which forced him to miss the majority of the season.

With those now behind him, Butler hasn’t looked back, playing nine games since debuting in the round one victory against Carlton.

“Every player in their first couple of years is desperate to make a statement, play some games and then work into making a career at the top level,” Loader said.

“Anything that steps in the road of that becomes quite a hurdle for a young player to get over. Dan would have had some times where he probably thought to himself ‘I need to get myself back up and running and show people I can do it at the top level’.”

“Dimma and the Richmond Football Club have shown the faith in him to give him another year and right now he’s paying them back in spades. This is just another one of those good stories in footy.”

Loader is full of praise for Butler. From his quick feet to typical small forward goal sense, the 21-year-old has been a revelation for Richmond in 2017 and received the Round 11 Rising Star nomination for his 13 disposals and two goals against North Melbourne – the side Loader now coaches at in a development role.

After seeing Butler up close and now as an opponent, Loader suggests his former pupil has similar traits to some of the game’s best small forwards past and present.

“A lot of the time I steer away from trying to compare kids to other players.

“But he’s got little touches of a lot of players. He does some freaky things like Eddie Betts and his forward pressure is just like what Stephen Milne’s was.

“There’s all these types of players you can compare them to but, at the end of the day, they’re their own player and they’ll create their own path.”

While Butler may only be still in the early stages of his career, Loader said he has high hopes for the Tigers’ number 40.

“He’s now playing games like he was in TAC Cup three years ago where he is having a big influence, hitting the scoreboard and becoming difficult to play on.

“The opportunities are now endless for him. He’s gone from being a guy that hadn’t played a game in his first two years to a Rising Star nominee in 11 weeks.

“The sky is the limit provided he continues to get opportunities and continues to work hard, so there is no reason he can’t go on and have an outstanding future at Richmond.

“I wish him the best and hope he continues to show people how good of a player he can be.”

Link
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/ex-coach-backs-betts-milne-like-butler/
 
He would be sight to see streaming out of the guts and kicking long to FF.
 
Thanks willo, just the tonic on a weekend where we're having a bye. Feel good story about one of the lesser light youngsters who has struggled to gain any traction in his first couple of seasons.
No complaints from me about the way young Geezer has kick started his AFL career this year, long may he keep improving n performing for the Tiges.
 
Ive watched that goal of his numerous times, the one against West Coast where he picks the ball up on the wing and burns them off and kicks the goal from the goal square. Spine tingling. Imagine him or Rioli doing something like that on a warm spring day on the last Saturday in September.
 
Yeah that was a ripper Leon.

Great article too, thanks for posting OP!

Butler has been very good this year. I thought Butler shown more with his speed and composure under pressure than George. I like Georgey boy but I think Butler will be the better small forward over time
 
Good article Willo.

Thanks.

I like the kid.

Continues on the up I can see him in the future being more than a small forward.

A player who rotates in the midfield.