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Welcome to the Tigers Oleg Markov

Oleg stood Jack a number of times at the Maroochy game sims. He is one very determined fella and while beaten at times, he proved he has the metal to stand the quicker fwds too. Looking quite versatile is Lego.
 
Good replacement for Vlastuin on the hbf , Really love the way Oleg goes about his football - will play 200 games this kid
 
In one of the practice games last year Markov did this fancy sidestep to get around his opponent with ease. In one movement he showed he has more tools than most of the guys who have worn the yellow and black in recent years.
 
Tigers of Old said:
Would like to see him spend a bit of time on the ball this year.
Yes he seems to be a very versatile player for us. Perhaps he can develop into a mid like the Bont who played a mix of half-back and mid-field roles as a junior. The Bont (192cm) took a couple of years to develop after being drafted 2013. Oleg (188cm) has a bigger upside with getting into AFL relatively late and he may have grown a bit more last 12 months. Be great to watch his progress this year.
 
Hope he's got strong shoulders - carrying the weight of PRE can be tough.

Yet to really confirm a spot in the starting 22. Seems he's the great white hope on here.
 
tigermike said:
Yes he seems to be a very versatile player for us. Perhaps he can develop into a mid like the Bont who played a mix of half-back and mid-field roles as a junior. The Bont (192cm) took a couple of years to develop after being drafted 2013. Oleg (188cm) has a bigger upside with getting into AFL relatively late and he may have grown a bit more last 12 months. Be great to watch his progress this year.

Never going to be the Bont. Never.

The pathway and hope for him should be the bloke who won the Norm Smith, JJ. That's the style he plays and the facet of our structure that is completely lacking.
 
Yeah really worried about the lack quality coming from our back half mediums and smalls this year Scoop.

Our transition game is 18th in the league ATM.

It completely relies on two things:

1) Dimmer completely revamping his game style to both promote and then ingrain running to support and provide an option in dangerous areas as default. Not the stop, start, go slow, long to the boundary style he's previously promoted.
2) We are too heavily reliant on a couple of young guys still finding there way Short and Markov and the elder Houli to provide the quality rebound. Can they compete with the rebound clubs like the Dogs have in Johannisen, Boyd, Murphy, Suckling, Biggs, Wood et al doing the same.
 
Leysy Days said:
Yeah really worried about the lack quality coming from our back half mediums and smalls this year Scoop.

Our transition game is 18th in the league ATM.

It completely relies on two things:

1) Dimmer completely revamping his game style to both promote and then ingrain running to support and provide an option in dangerous areas as default. Not the stop, start, go slow, long to the boundary style he's previously promoted.
2) We are too heavily reliant on a couple of young guys still finding there way Short and Markov and the elder Houli to provide the quality rebound. Can they compete with the rebound clubs like the Dogs have in Johannisen, Boyd, Murphy, Suckling, Biggs, Wood et al doing the same.
The answer unfortunately to question 1 is NO.

Which makes question 2 redundant.
 
I think Brandon Ellis will spend time behind the ball across the back 3rd as a spare give it and get out man.
 
Gawd help us if Brandon Ellis is our give it/get out man [sigh]

The praise for Oleg on here reminds me of the same crap the Australian media lump on young prospective tennis players coming through the ranks...best this...best that...will be better than... NEK MINNIT!!!

I suppose it is the pre-season after all.
 
Leysy Days said:
Yeah really worried about the lack quality coming from our back half mediums and smalls this year Scoop.

Our transition game is 18th in the league ATM.

It completely relies on two things:

1) Dimmer completely revamping his game style to both promote and then ingrain running to support and provide an option in dangerous areas as default. Not the stop, start, go slow, long to the boundary style he's previously promoted.
2) We are too heavily reliant on a couple of young guys still finding there way Short and Markov and the elder Houli to provide the quality rebound. Can they compete with the rebound clubs like the Dogs have in Johannisen, Boyd, Murphy, Suckling, Biggs, Wood et al doing the same.

Yep, it's why I wanted Suckling two years ago. We still don't have enough great kicks from half back. And we don't have enough midfielders to dump on to a flank to play the role. And don't @ me with Conca and KMac. They are dicey users at best. Maybe Corey Ellis if sound.

I have huge hopes for both Short & Markov but its all eggs in the basket stuff. Brandon Ellis if he reverts to north-south style could be a solution but would need a system reboot to do it. Our slow, boring, round the boundary process makes most players useless. It's a different sport but I heard Ange Postecoglou talk about how he implemented a risky ball movement of playing out from the back by foot at the Brisbane Roar, Against the Victory they turned it over three times in the first half and got scored on every time but at half time he told his boys "your doing what I ask, keep doing it, be brave." They got beat 5-1 on the night but Ange knew he had them in right frame of mind and believing in what he was selling. They peeled off 30 odd wins in a row after that. I think that applies to us in that if we got beat taking the game on and playing the right style of football that wins finals, we cop finishing 12th. But we are playing an outdated style that does not stand up in finals and is a mile behind the modern game.
 
SCOOP said:
Yep, it's way I wanted Suckling two years ago. We still don't have enough great kicks from half back. And we don't have enough midfielders to dump on to a flank to play the role. And don't @ me with Conca and KMac. They are dicey users at best. Maybe Corey Ellis if sound.

I have huge hopes for both Short & Markov but its all eggs in the basket stuff. Brandon Ellis if he reverts to north-south style could be a solution but would need a system reboot to do it. Our slow, boring, round the boundary process makes most players useless. It's a different sport but I heard Ange Postecoglou talk about how he implemented a risky ball movement of playing out from the back by foot at the Brisbane Roar, Against the Victory they turned it over three times in the first half and got scored on every time but at half time he told his boys "your doing what I ask, keep doing it, be brave." They got beat 5-1 on the night but Ange knew he had them in right frame of mind and believing in what he was selling. They peeled off 30 odd wins in a row after that. I think that applies to us in that if we got beat taking the game on and playing the right style of football that wins finals, we cop finishing 12th. But we are playing an outdated style that does not stand up in finals and is a mile behind the modern game.

havnt most teams got more or less eggs in one basket?

Only 12 -24 months ago, Footscray only had a few young eggs and 1 basket.

turns out they had a couple of double yolkers, but I reckon we've got 3-4 about to graduate too.

Like the Postecogliogist script too.
 
Footscray also the balls to dismiss there coach mid contract and took the chance to hire someone to turn the playing group around.