Welcome to the Tigers - Connor Menadue

[Mr Brightside]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Not unhappy with the kid, though wouldn't mind seeing him have a couple in the VFL before the break, player like Mrakov May benifit from a debut against the Bombers and then the real deal against the Roos, we are allready missing ball carriers in McIntosh an Houli so Probally should keep him in

 

[The_General]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Watched him closely last night (on the box, not at the game).

He was manic with his defensive pressure. Just ran from one opponent to the next trying to create pressure. It seemed to work, and my guess is his tank is huge or he is mentally strong enough to gut run.

His work with the ball is my concern - and it's not hatred as I saw on another thread. We need to teach people the right things, rewarding bad habits will only get us another Houli type, or worse a Gordon type. He does panic, he doesn't seem to have as much "time" as C Ellis has. He's worth persevering with and I'm sure he'll be good for us in the future. However I think we need to be careful not to have him produce the same outcomes over and over again.

He'll likely not be dropped though, based on Dimma's press conference where he said they were eager to try Menadue in Houli's role last night, but the weather didn't make it the right environment for someone with his body size (or words to that effect).

 

[MalenyTiger]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Thought he tried last night but his body size in such a cogested game didn't help. If there was ever a game to rest him it should have been last night and I think Hardwick will leave him in for next week against Essendon. He does seem to have good endurance for a young player but really needs to find the ball more. Maybe next week if he is played across half back this might happen.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Watched him closely last night (on the box, not at the game).

He was manic with his defensive pressure. Just ran from one opponent to the next trying to create pressure. It seemed to work, and my guess is his tank is huge or he is mentally strong enough to gut run.

His work with the ball is my concern - and it's not hatred as I saw on another thread. We need to teach people the right things, rewarding bad habits will only get us another Houli type, or worse a Gordon type. He does panic, he doesn't seem to have as much "time" as C Ellis has. He's worth persevering with and I'm sure he'll be good for us in the future. However I think we need to be careful not to have him produce the same outcomes over and over again.

He'll likely not be dropped though, based on Dimma's press conference where he said they were eager to try Menadue in Houli's role last night, but the whether didn't make it the right environment for someone with his body size (or words to that effect).

Great obs, Mark. No way he'll be dropped.


Sprinting to influence a contest. Metres covered per game. This is not a measured stat is it?

If it were Connor Menadue would win the AFL. By half time some weeks.

Sprinting to reach a contest. Metres covered per game. Connor would win that too. But he usually influences because he gets a hand in if he can't win the ball. *smile*, he wins the ball too.

Menadue spends most of the game exhausted. Out on his feet but sprinting. His only moment of rest is when he gets the ball. And that's when he's turning it over. Everybody involved knows this. It's obvious. Menadue has to refresh when he gets the ball, identify and hit a target and then relax his mind. But he hasn't learned to do this yet. The coach has persevered. He's kept the acid on the youngster. He's allowed him the freedom to run. Good.

Dimma's said something about a new chapter. Good to refresh.

First, Menadue's running will be much more controlled. Shorter bursts and fewer on the break. (He just won't be tired.) So he can watch and execute. Secondly, he will get easier opponents. Menadue gets an elite opponent most minutes. An elite mid. Thirdly, Connor will have structured support around him. All of this is very good.

On the flipside Connnor is even weaker than Cialis. He is gunna get exposed one on one. He will have to attack the ball. And if he's in traffic he will get caught and it will be close to goal sometimes. Two nine-stoners in a backline is a lot. It's risky.

I like the balls of it.

 

[Barnzy]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

So out of his depth it's embarrassing. Been embarrassing the last few weeks at least. Panics anytime he's near the ball, no composure and stuffs most time he's in the chain of possession. For the teams sake and mostly his own, needs a spell in the 2's.

Compare the game to a Connor Blakely who was in and under, winning the ball with assurance. Night and day really.

 

[Sintiger]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Will be out next week with "general soreness" is my tip

 

[TigerMasochist]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

So out of his depth it's embarrassing. Been embarrassing the last few weeks at least. Panics anytime he's near the ball, no composure and stuffs most time he's in the chain of possession. For the teams sake and mostly his own, needs a spell in the 2's.

Geez! Young Connor's getting a fairly steep learning curve at the moment, probably had a few more games than expected pushed into him already this season. Kid's a pencil n a running machine, he might get caught in traffic a bit at times n not have the power to get through, but panicking, out of his depth n embarrassing are just out n out *smile* comments.
Obviously no panic or out of depth when he balanced n slotted the goal late in the game when a bunch of his senior team mates had been butchering most attempts.
Was mentioned when he was drafted that he was going to be a three year project, one n a half years in the kid is going fine, He'll be a bloody good player for us by the time he's got his three years n forty or so games done.

 

[The_General]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

This forum can be weird at times. It's OK to rip into established senior players and say they're duds and pathetic etc. But if a young guy actually shows some signs of development and people comment on them, it's heresy. Is it wrong to point out obvious things?

If people go watch Connor again on replay, you'll see he does a mix of good and ordinary things, as most players do. However if you pay attention to him when the contest is tight or pressure is coming, you'll see he panics. There's nothing wrong with saying that - he does it. He'll learn from it, hopefully. It's important he does, or in 3 years time, he'll be the next houli, grigg etc etc. The last two games his disposal has been very sloppy.

I think Dyer'ere has hit it on the head and it reminds me a bit of Shane Edwards when he first started playing. Whilst not as quick as Connor, he had fantastic endurance and he'd run all over the place to impact contests. It did two things - he kept getting caught in the middle of where the ball was and where it was going, so he couldn't get enough of his own hands on the ball and when he did get it, he was generally stuffed and made some poor decisions with it or skill errors.

Menadue has to learn as much about where to run to as he does about slowing the game down and thinking his way through things. He'll be fantastic to watch when it clicks, which it no doubt will. If not the end of this season, then probably next.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Markov?

 

[spook]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

So out of his depth it's embarrassing. Been embarrassing the last few weeks at least. Panics anytime he's near the ball, no composure and stuffs most time he's in the chain of possession. For the teams sake and mostly his own, needs a spell in the 2's.

But, you want us to play the kids and lose? Shouldn't we keep him in then?

Compare the game to a Connor Blakely who was in and under, winning the ball with assurance. Night and day really.

Did you notice Blakely's disposal? Awful. Not sure what he has to do with Menadue, except another chance for you to whinge that we drafted the wrong player. We didn't. Blakely is a terrible kick and if we'd drafted him you'd be whinging about that.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

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Will be out next week with "general soreness" is my tip

Wouldn't be at all surprised. A work mate and I used to always have a chuckle when we saw someone out with 'general soreness'.

 

[BrisTiger24]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

His pre season and early season disposal was top notch. Right now, he's turning it over, getting tackled etc. can only assume he's carrying an injury or is mentally spent. I'd go the latter. A few weeks in tHe VFL will sort him out IMO

 

[Elmer]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Dunno why people want him dropped? Didn't have great night in terrible conditions for a light bodied runner. Needs games. Better for the run.

 

[gutfull]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Menadue knockers give it a spell , he kicked a much needed goal and the conditions WOULD not have suited him . Should play every week jeez there is a bye in 2-3 weeks yea?
Cory Ellis l would play too if fit and bring in Conca !!! bang!!

 

[duki]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

His pre season and early season disposal was top notch. Right now, he's turning it over, getting tackled etc. can only assume he's carrying an injury or is mentally spent. I'd go the latter. A few weeks in tHe VFL will sort him out IMO

I think its because he is taking the game on more now, possibly different instruction than earlier in the year

 

[tigertim]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Will be out next week with "general soreness" is my tip

You think theyre "resting" the kids at stages ie Rioli, C Ellis then Mendadue?

 

[IanG]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

This forum can be weird at times. It's OK to rip into established senior players and say they're duds and pathetic etc. But if a young guy actually shows some signs of development and people comment on them, it's heresy. Is it wrong to point out obvious things?

If people go watch Connor again on replay, you'll see he does a mix of good and ordinary things, as most players do. However if you pay attention to him when the contest is tight or pressure is coming, you'll see he panics. There's nothing wrong with saying that - he does it. He'll learn from it, hopefully. It's important he does, or in 3 years time, he'll be the next houli, grigg etc etc. The last two games his disposal has been very sloppy.

Its the tone and the wording of the criticism. If they put it like you have then no problem.

 

[DLR]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Good kid is Connor. Can play and is our future

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

Bye coming up.

 

[tigersnake]

Re: Welcome to the Tiggers - Connor Menadue

You think theyre "resting" the kids at stages ie Rioli, C Ellis then Mendadue?

makes sense. Manadue hasn't been 'embarrassing', nowhere near it. Taylor Hunt round 2 was embarrassing. Been down on form yeah.