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Welcome to Richmond Chris Yarran
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thomas the tiger said:
12 months annual leave before he plays, no skin fold tests and we supply a drinking buddy. Plus a 3 year $400k plus wage to go with it
Oh and the minor details like we gave up 2015 2nd round pick and our 2016 2nd round pick that we exchanged them into pick 19 which we offloaded to carltank for the privilege of having him
More revisionist history from you Bully. Hawthorn offered pick 15 (from North for Anderson) to Carlton, but it was only Yarran nominating us that brought him here.bullus_hit said:
He wouldn't have been a free agent. He had no intentions of going back to the blues.
You are right General.
The Yazzy Days trade is looking down the barrel, but there was zero way he was staying at Carlton.
100% would to the next applicant, in this case Hawthorn.
The Yazzy Days trade is looking down the barrel, but there was zero way he was staying at Carlton.
100% would to the next applicant, in this case Hawthorn.
The_General said:
Whether or not Hawthorn chased him is irrelevant, the price we paid was too high, particularly given he was talking about quitting football prior to us throwing away two second rounders. I said at the time I didn't mind Chris Yarran joining the club but trading Ben Lennon would have been the best course of action, we are now stuck with two footballers who seem to lack professionalism and have sacrificed the future because we were desperate to get a trade over the line.
Actually, it's not irrelevant. However, knowing how you operate on these boards, I'm not surprised by your response.
He wouldn't have been there this year as a free agent.
Pick 15 being offered represents what the market thought was right.
It may still turn out to be a bad deal in the long term. However, I doubt the Hawks thought he'd turn out this way either. Neither did the Pies who I'm told had a nibble, although there's a school of thought that was to weaken our chase for Treloar.
Add to that, if we were finals bound, the club would have got him up for them. Instead they said go get yourself right and be ready for preseason. There was no point pushing him for 6 meaningless games.
Hawthorn chasing him indicates the above statement is bollocks.bullus_hit said:
He wouldn't have been there this year as a free agent.
Pick 15 being offered represents what the market thought was right.
It may still turn out to be a bad deal in the long term. However, I doubt the Hawks thought he'd turn out this way either. Neither did the Pies who I'm told had a nibble, although there's a school of thought that was to weaken our chase for Treloar.
Add to that, if we were finals bound, the club would have got him up for them. Instead they said go get yourself right and be ready for preseason. There was no point pushing him for 6 meaningless games.
I have refrained from commenting on thus trade due to the health issues involved, the bloke us back in wa and I'm not sure that the James squire inn at Scarborough beach serves Lo carb beer , so the odds that he comes back for preseason in condition to play are fairly slim.
The_General said:
How I operate on these boards? You might want to elaborate on the snidey remark.
My point about the free agency has always been consistent. If Yarran didn't pass Hawthorn's due diligence (which cannot categorically be confirmed) then he would have probably stayed at Carlton and taken a year off at their expense, he would have then been a free agent next year. Hawthorn were also up to their eyeballs in trying to secure Jake Carlisle, both their top 20 picks were on the table.
Secondly, the Yarran trade was just about the final deal of the week, we could have held firm on a more reasonable exchange or alternatively, pulled the pin altogether and then pursued him next year. Given Carlton were acting like spoiled brats the whole time this would have been just desserts.
this could be our worst decision at the trade table ever.
At least Tambling, fiora, Jon,conca, Lennon pulled on the jumper
At least Tambling, fiora, Jon,conca, Lennon pulled on the jumper
Yarran turned the Hawks down, that is why they backed away. It wasn't their due diligence. We were able to put a better offer on the table, and had been in discussions a lot longer. The Hawks only made contact when they thought they'd lost Suckling, by then we'd been into Yarran a long time.bullus_hit said:
You're missing the point about market value. The Hawks went with 15. Carlton wanted 12. We gave them 19. They probably won out as we went with a list one short this season. In the long term, who knows. However, it's not looking great.
As for how you operate on the boards, I'll explain. You ignore facts which don't suit your argument and use speculation without any evidence and pass it off as a fact (eg he'd be a free agent if we played hardball).
The_General said:
So did Hawthorn do the due diligence or not? You seem to be speculating they did, or perhaps they didn't? Usually when a player agrees to join a club they go in for a medical and then moves are made one way or another. Richmond did it with Trengove, a deal was tabled and then we bailed on the advice of doctors. As I stated in my earlier post, Hawthorn made inquiries, that doesn't mean they were absolutely committed to a trade, especially given Yarran didn't want to go and they also had offered up both top 20 picks for Jake Carlisle.
"We did ask the question about six or seven weeks ago about Chris when we heard that he was looking to move, or Carlton were looking to move him, but we were told then that it looks like it will be Richmond and that was as far as that went," Wright said.
"We haven't spoken to him or his management in the last couple of weeks."
The Yarran trade was finalised with minutes to go, I doubt very much that another deal could have been arranged in time. In other words, Dan had the upper hand and could have played Carlton's bluff and picked up Yarran once he became a free agent.
RICHMOND has held its nerve and landed Chris Yarran from Carlton in a swap for pick 19 just minutes before the trade deadline.
The Tigers and Blues had been stuck in a deadlock over the wantaway Blues speedster throughout the NAB AFL Trade Period, wrangling over the value of the pick to be exchanged.
But with less than half an hour to go, the Tigers locked away Yarran on a three-year deal.
Richmond football manager Dan Richardson said he was relieved to finally secure the 24-year-old.
"You're always a bit nervous when it gets to half an hour before the deadline … but we were fairly confident that in the end it would work out," Richardson said.
And I take great objection to your accusation that I twist and contort facts, you seem to be the one doing that in this conversation if the truth be known. If you want to cite another example then go ahead, I'd be very interested to see what other debates have stoked your ire. The whole pick 15 trade just doesn't add up either considering Anderson was traded after their last point of contact with Yarran's management.
Even from the links you have provided it's all speculation.
Some rival clubs had suspected Hawthorn could make a last-minute play for Yarran with the pick No.15 it acquired from North Melbourne in the Jed Anderson trade, but it's understood Yarran won't be open to a late approach from another club.
Richmond has until 2pm on Thursday to reach an agreement with Carlton.
The Blues could bend before that deadline given they are understood to have agreed with Yarran that it's in both of their best interests that he be released from the final year of his existing contract.
Carlton's bargaining position could be further weakened by the fact Richmond remains Yarran's only genuine suitor.
I seem to remember it was said that Yarran would rather take a year off than play for Carlton again. He seems to have managed both so I just wonder if we will ever see Yarran play under our colours and regain his best form.
tigerlove said:
Yarran was minutes away from being a free agent, the ball was entirely in Dan Richardson's court. If he had walked away after being strung along by Carlton for two weeks would you have been upset?
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I dont care what happened or happens. Two second rounders for @100 games of Yarran was expensive.
