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[The_General]

Must admit I have been watching Suckling this year in envy of the Bulldogs. Can sometimes shank it but very good player nonetheless. Tiges asleep at the wheel, once again. :-(

See if that continues now Johannisen and Murphy are gone.

 

[Mikee]

Yep no way we would have had Yarran as a free agent next year. If we wanted him we had to take him this year.

Agree but we payed overs as usual. Why TWO second round picks? That's ludicrous taking everything into account. He has been injury prone the last few years with soft tissue injuries and he wanted out. Surely just last years 2nd round pick was enough; paid way too much and we will be spewing come draft time this year that we don't have a 2nd round pick, typical Richmond.

 

[Scoop]

Dual premiership player and carving it up at the dogs. Seriously not enough leysy in the "I was Wrong" thread.

Suckling ranked in best kicks by Champion Data year after year but Leysy pines for Collins types.

There's no reason we didn't end with Yarran & Suckling. See how the Dogs travelled with Murphy, JJ & Suckling? That's what I wanted with Houli, Yarran & Suckling. Said it last year. Was seriously silly ignoring him.

 

[Dyer'ere]

If we'd taken Suckling we'd have only been beaten by say - six goals fifteen last Friday night. Seriously without irony, SCOOP. For the first forty-five minutes we could not get the football out of the defensive arc. That's when morale disintegrated.

A fit Yarran would totally have done that for us too. But Suckling is a geriatric, and if we can't draft and develop a young HBF the disaster is nuclear.

Having wasted a good drafdt choice on Hampson two years earlier the Yarran trade cost seems like robbery. But he's a B grade footballer and we lack quality.

 

[tigerlove]

Agree but we payed overs as usual. Why TWO second round picks? That's ludicrous taking everything into account. He has been injury prone the last few years with soft tissue injuries and he wanted out. Surely just last years 2nd round pick was enough; paid way too much and we will be spewing come draft time this year that we don't have a 2nd round pick, typical Richmond.

Agree we could have probably squeezed a better deal. Still as good a player as he is apparently going to be, how much overs did Collingwood pay for Treloar, 2 1st rounders over two years. The way Collingwood are going right now (should be zero wins) could end up being a top 5 draft pick this year.

 

[evo]

Suckling ranked in best kicks by Champion Data year after year but Leysy pines for Collins types.

There's no reason we didn't end with Yarran & Suckling. See how the Dogs travelled with Murphy, JJ & Suckling? That's what I wanted with Houli, Yarran & Suckling. Said it last year. Was seriously silly ignoring him.

Suckling and Johannissen are the beneficieries of Macrae and Libbers quality inside work.

I reckon Macrae is currently one of the most underrated mids going around. Seriously knows how to find the pill. He reminds me a bit of a young robert Harvey.

Hopefully one day Richmond will learn to target stat machines in the draft.

I'm still happy with the Yazzy trade. Just wanna see him on the park.

 

[Scoop]

If we'd taken Suckling we'd have only been beaten by say - six goals fifteen last Friday night. Seriously without irony, SCOOP. For the first forty-five minutes we could not get the football out of the defensive arc. That's when morale disintegrated.

A fit Yarran would totally have done that for us too. But Suckling is a geriatric, and if we can't draft and develop a young HBF the disaster is nuclear.

Having wasted a good drafdt choice on Hampson two years earlier the Yarran trade cost seems like robbery. But he's a B grade footballer and we lack quality.

Suckling would've cost nothing but cap space. We chased any A grader of worth and spent nothing. Rather chase a couple of B graders and improve then keep missing A graders. Suckling has been carving it up at the Dogs, looking like a Rolls Royce.

And we can't develop a young HBF who can kick. We haven't for a decade. Travis Casserly the last try.

We are the worst kicking side in the comp and have a chance to get a elite kick at no cost besides salary cap?

And we have a need for that spot. A need that cost two draft picks. That we could have filled for nothing. And drafted two more talented players. I'd take on Suckling. I wanted to take on both. Build like the Dogs.

Not against the Yarran deal yet but it can't be spoken of in such glowing terms before he steps on the park. So far it is a major loss.

We need to see something to break even on it.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Suckling would've cost nothing but cap space. We chased any A grader of worth and spent nothing. Rather chase a couple of B graders and improve then keep missing A graders. Suckling has been carving it up at the Dogs, looking like a Rolls Royce.

And we can't develop a young HBF who can kick. We haven't for a decade. Travis Casserly the last try.

We are the worst kicking side in the comp and have a chance to get a elite kick at no cost besides salary cap?

And we have a need for that spot. A need that cost two draft picks. That we could have filled for nothing. And drafted two more talented players. I'd take on Suckling. I wanted to take on both. Build like the Dogs.

Not against the Yarran deal yet but it can't be spoken of in such glowing terms before he steps on the park. So far it is a major loss.

We need to see something to break even on it.

A backline with Yarran, Houli and Suckling would give us a very different shape to what we have now, SCOUPon.

It's a shame we'll be doing our personnel changes at the end of this year rather than at the end of last year. Because Suckling and Stevie J cost nothing. And I'm not sure we'll get a chance to pick up players of that quality for free at the end of this year.

FWIW even as a devout anti-trade-in, I'm ok up to a point with the Yarran deal. Provided we can get those draft choices back.

 

[Scoop]

A backline with Yarran, Houli and Suckling would give us a very different shape to what we have now, SCOUPon.

It's a shame we'll be doing our personnel changes at the end of this year rather than at the end of last year. Because Suckling and Stevie J cost nothing. And I'm not sure we'll get a chance to pick up players of that quality for free at the end of this year.

FWIW even as a devout anti-trade-in, I'm ok up to a point with the Yarran deal. Provided we can get those draft choices back.

It's complete madness. We had the opportunity to plug and play and we missed it. And I'm not anti Yarran in principle but so far we have zero return on investment.

And we won't get the draft choices back, we don't have the coconuts to be bold.

 

[seven]

Must admit I have been watching Suckling this year in envy of the Bulldogs. Can sometimes shank it but very good player nonetheless. Tiges asleep at the wheel, once again. :-(

He didn't tick all the boxes.

 

[Dyer'ere]

It's complete madness. We had the opportunity to plug and play and we missed it. And I'm not anti Yarran in principle but so far we have zero return on investment.

And we won't get the draft choices back, we don't have the coconuts to be bold.

Our selection policy of the first four rounds of 2016 has shown anybody who was not convinced exactly where we stand talentwise. It's the depression we had to have, SCOOP. If that hasn't worked nothing will.

 

[leon]

Suckling would've cost nothing but cap space. We chased any A grader of worth and spent nothing. Rather chase a couple of B graders and improve then keep missing A graders. Suckling has been carving it up at the Dogs, looking like a Rolls Royce.

And we can't develop a young HBF who can kick. We haven't for a decade. Travis Casserly the last try.

We are the worst kicking side in the comp and have a chance to get a elite kick at no cost besides salary cap?

And we have a need for that spot. A need that cost two draft picks. That we could have filled for nothing. And drafted two more talented players. I'd take on Suckling. I wanted to take on both. Build like the Dogs.

Not against the Yarran deal yet but it can't be spoken of in such glowing terms before he steps on the park. So far it is a major loss.

We need to see something to break even on it.

Why don't people just here just face the facts. Trades are just another area where our club generally prove their incompetence and gullibility. Remember we were the club that looked at taking Trengove and Winderlich. Fortunately medicos just saved us, or W just changed his mind.

Tried to tell people here that Yaz came with issues. Anyway we took Blues bait and gave up two 2nd round draft picks for a guy who is out-of-shape, unfit and has dubious motivation to maintain the commitment required to perform at the level of elite football. He COULD get back and play good footy for us, but that's not certain. Very likely to take longer than the 6 wks touted by our club. So far, a dead loss and has contributed to a demoralising, flat start to 2016 for club and fans.

Suckling's kicking and decision-making has always been superb. As Hodge said about him last Sunday, he has the ability to direct the ball fast, low and hard 180* in any direction with precision, break forward and be lethal from 60/50 (where most of our current players poop themselves and try to find a dinky 30m pass, often resulting in a TO). Like Roos, Dogs seem to get their Due Diligence/medicals right and cherry-pick FA talent that really boosts their list.

Just compare Suckling with Floss or Houli. Floss's kicking is just ok, he is not much of a threat though and no attacking weapon. Houli has excellent kicking prowess but is panicky and poor under pressure, often perceived rather than real; just kicks it down the line, bombs it long to nobody or is too afraid to actually find poise and select and hit the best target available. Dogs and Hawks, for example, have numerous players who do this as routine. Yeo's kicking last Friday just broke the game open.

By any measure, we have lost hugely on this deal it appears ATM because of the picks thrown away. Yarran will have to become a champion for us to balance the ledger, over next 5-6 years.

Hope but not faith.

 

[Tenacious]

It's complete madness. We had the opportunity to plug and play and we missed it. And I'm not anti Yarran in principle but so far we have zero return on investment.

And we won't get the draft choices back, we don't have the coconuts to be bold.

Too early to write off an investment at this stage.
Like a lot of investments - this one could still be a medium and even long term (e.g. 100 plus games) winner.

 

[spook]

Suckling kicks scrubbers almost as often as he kicks lasers. And he's a cat. But at least he's on the park.

 

[Leysy Days]

Suckling kicks scrubbers almost as often as he kicks lasers. And he's a cat. But at least he's on the park.

This.

Happy to have a beer on it with anyone that Suckling gets dropped this year. ;D

And no way we play Houli, Yazzy & Suckling in the one backline. We'd leak even more than we do now.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I'm indifferent to Suckling. Has some strengths and weaknesses.
However given he's adorned with premiership medallions I doubt he really cares if anyone thinks he can play or not.

 

[snags]

Suckling ranked in best kicks by Champion Data year after year but Leysy pines for Collins types.

There's no reason we didn't end with Yarran & Suckling. See how the Dogs travelled with Murphy, JJ & Suckling? That's what I wanted with Houli, Yarran & Suckling. Said it last year. Was seriously silly ignoring him.

Suckling went to the dogs due to his relationship with the coach. Not sure any other clubs would've got him out of the Hawks.

 

[Leysy Days]

So far he hasn't shat on anyone, he's been trying to lose weight and attend to his ailing body. Call me old fashioned but Suckling + 2 players makes more sense to me, the Doggies have been the smart ones here, not Richmond.

Just on this Bully. You were also all over us chasing then trading out of the draft for James bloody Aish last year.

So bit of revisionist theory here.

 

[Scoop]

Suckling kicks scrubbers almost as often as he kicks lasers. And he's a cat. But at least he's on the park.

Champion data disagrees, Top ten in kick rating the last 5 years.

 

[seven]

Champion data disagrees, Top ten in kick rating the last 5 years.

Is That why we didn't chase him?