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Welcome Liam Baker

And my pronouns are they them not you!
Always got taught that they n them were plural, signifying more than one. As hopefully, there's only one of you. Perhaps, it would be a far more appropriate pronoun to signify in the singular.
 
Another whose performance has dropped off during the season, Playing in the wrong position or trying too hard? Hard to say as he still puts the effort in with little reward
 
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His start to the game was atrocious. Kept getting caught, like a deer in lights. At one stage had 8 disposals and 5 turnovers. To his credit he really picked it up in the 2nd half and ended up being quite serviceable. I just feel like there's things on his mind the way he's been playing the last few weeks. I think he'll probably move on.
 
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I’d probably prefer to keep both if we can. Core snr players still young enough to be part of another push. We need troops back supporting them.
Nah time to start the clearance.
Baker is our 2024 version of Chrissy Bond.
He helped us to get Ottens.
Fingers crossed the pick or picks we get for Baker and Rioli are as good as Ottens
 
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That's just silly. He is a dual premiership player btw and apart from anything else played well in the 2020 grand final.

I was reading the Jason Castagna thread and there was a suggestion that one of the reasons he left footy was because of the supporters. It made me think about the language that gets used on this site and others about players and whether they see it.

Whatever you think of Marlion Pickett he is most definitely not useless.
Marlion Pickett is coming of two shizen seasons. He turns 33 in january and his best role is a role where we have our fair share of kids demanding a game.

He may not have been useless but he has become pretty darn ordinary over the last few seasons.
We need to delist. There is no long term future with him.
 
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I think Baker is an ideal one to trade out.
If a club is willing to give up a top 10 pick for him take it and run.
People talk about him being there for the next go at it. He turns 27 in January. Just how quick do people think we are going to turn this train around.

What does he do to an elite level? Not a thing. He does most things reasonably well. He is courageous and always gives 100% but what else is there?
He is versatile in the sense that he is okay in most roles but not great in any.

He is not super quick, Generally speaking he is not a big possession getter, his kicking is average, he has not really dominated as a mid but he competes.
His size limits his impact.

He does not win a lot of clearances generally but has at times had good games in this.He is not a huge tackling machine but again has had good numbers in this at times.
He has decent numbers in contested possession.

As i said he seems to do most things well or okay but he is not elite or even a B grade in some things.

As tiger supporters we all love him but i really do think we overrate him.

So we keep him the question is. Is he a better mid than most of our mids? where is he in that pecking order? Where will he be in a few years time after we draft quality mids? Ithink he is expendable as a mid.

Okay lots argue his best role is back so who is he going to play in front of. Rioli Vlastuin and Broad are shoe ins. Do we play him in front of Trezise,Smith, Banks Brown we have to get games into these kids at some stage.
In the scheme of things i would argue he is superfluous to needs going forward.

Hmm a top 10 pick. Given where we are at again id take it and run.
What about pick 12 and 24 for Baker and 34 or some sort of pick swap along those lines.

Now where has the body armour and helmet got too.
 
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Marlion Pickett is coming of two shizen seasons. He turns 33 in january and his best role is a role where we have our fair share of HIS kids demanding a game.

He may not have been useless but he has become pretty darn ordinary over the last few seasons.
We need to delist. There is no long term future with him.
 
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His mind isn't in the game, his body is at the game but his head is miles away.
His mind is on West Coast with swap for Harley who aint happy flogging his ass around Perth. Baker has three premiership medals so time to go home. Watch this space.
 
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Rookie pick turns out to be a high teens draft pick.
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