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I think we need to keep pumping games into him as well to see where he is at. His running power and speed are elite. We just need to play the wing more often as I think he gets pushed off the ball too easily still.
 
MB78 said:
I think we need to keep pumping games into him as well to see where he is at. His running power and speed are elite. We just need to play the wing more often as I think he gets pushed off the ball too easily still.
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Yep this is at least a sensible suggestion
 
Carter said:
Has some nice tools. Still needs to fill out that frame a bit and he’ll break out at some point. I have no other data but that. He’s a faith player.
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Yep. The point is his proactive running attack and defence compared to others who get soft and drop out. Just needs to build more beef and composure. Will be better in a more stable side.
 
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TigerForce said:
Yep. The point is his proactive running attack and defence compared to others who get soft and drop out. Just needs to build more beef and composure. Will be better in a more stable side.
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There is no further time for hope. Has had his chance. Half back is the easiest position on the ground in 2023
 
TigerForce said:
Yep. The point is his proactive running attack and defence compared to others who get soft and drop out. Just needs to build more beef and composure. Will be better in a more stable side.
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Nailed it TF

We need his pace at the minute regardless
 
Merveille said:
There is no further time for hope. Has had his chance. Half back is the easiest position on the ground in 2023
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19 games Merv. Not every player's the same. I'd rather bag players who do f*ck all and there are some in this team.
 
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Merveille said:
You said ‘no data’ and a ‘faith player’. If that’s no the Vibe what is
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He’s coming along slowly and brings much needed pace. Needs to bulk up a fair bit but I’d give him one more pre season to do that.

Plenty of experience going out this off season, you don’t want to cut too deep into the 30-40 gamers
 
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TigerForce said:
Yep. The point is his proactive running attack and defence compared to others who get soft and drop out. Just needs to build more beef and composure. Will be better in a more stable side.
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Sorry, but he's a liability in the back half. How many goals was he at fault for tonight? 3? 4? How many more before we realise that his weaknesses are outweighing his good qualities down there. I'd rather try someone else, particularly when the rest of the defence is playing so unsettled.
 
Carter said:
He’s coming along slowly and brings much needed pace. Needs to bulk up a fair bit but I’d give him one more pre season to do that.

Plenty of experience going out this off season, you don’t want to cut too deep into the youth
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Youth smouth. He doesn't have a good enough kick for an outside role. Too weak in the contest & goes to ground.
 
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mrposhman said:
Sorry, but he's a liability in the back half. How many goals was he at fault for tonight? 3? 4? How many more before we realise that his weaknesses are outweighing his good qualities down there. I'd rather try someone else, particularly when the rest of the defence is playing so unsettled.
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It's part of the learning curve in this situation we're in now.
 
TigerForce said:
19 games Merv. Not every player's the same. I'd rather bag players who do f*ck all and there are some in this team.
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It’s not personal. Did you see how easily he went to ground tonight? It’s not the first time. I don’t think he plays in a premiership ever, especially at half back, so he is a gap filler. If we gunna rebuild let’s do it right.
Bachar and Shane Edwards used to cop heaps on here but they had real tools and I never bagged them - this guy I think would be a 10/10 boundary umpire
 
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