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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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Do we though Stackman? Why don't we just accept the umpire's decision?
When I was a young man at school, teachers weren't technically allowed to belt kids any longer but there were a few who were fairly ingrained in the habit still.
I remember coming home once and telling my old man about a teacher who had given a kid a clip that day at school. His response was don't come crying to me if you get one because you will have done something to deserve it.
If an umpire pays a 50 metre penalty against a player because of their behaviour towards the umpire our response should be that the player is an idiot and needs to pull their head in. Instead the response is to want to slap the umpire because the offence wasn't serious enough to warrant a penalty.
It's a *smile* up culture in the game.
Having umpired a bit, it seems pretty obvious what happened. The umpire made a poor decision then a fraction of a second later realised it. He then got stressed and compounded his initial poor decision with another. It happens.
What i think we can assume is that it wasn’t abuse or a culmination of lots of complaints because if it was then the AFL would have said so. To do that would be normal AFL MO. We also had the Giants coach saying that any suggestion of these things being the reason was just wrong.
What we mean by consistency is seeing the exact same thing and treating it the same. We all know that perfection is impossible. An example last night was that there were multiple times ( at least 10 that I saw) when the reaction of the players to a decision was outwardly showing dissent to at least a level that Coniglio did and absolutely no action was taken.
What the AFL should have done was to come out and say the umpire made a mistake. That would have been accepted and then we move on.
As an aside we also saw the lions coach last night slam his fist down and say *smile* when a decision went against them. The Scott brothers are notorious for throwing their arms out as if incredulous. Should we start sanctioning the coaches as well?
This stuff is part of the game and can still be if we draw a line that is reasonable
Probably true, so why not just say it?
I reckon fans and clubs would accept it pretty well.
See I think we have a line that is reasonable. If you do or say something an umpire doesn't like after they make a decision then they penalise you.
Simple and easy for everyone to follow. Don't do or say anything about a decision or take the risk that comes with it.
We’ve been there in this discussion and to me that is not reasonable.
We don’t have it now anyway because most of the time minimal “dissent” is not penalised which means the players don’t know what the line is.
That’s the refuters point - don’t say anything. Completely remove any emotion out of that part of the game. None. 40 or 50 times a game don’t say a word despite the fact several decisions are subjective, are mistakes or are influenced by umps personal bias. Just shut up and wear it.
Using teacher violence against kids to explain why umpires are always right?
There is a difference between anbusw and what Coniglio did in most people’s opinion.
Abuse is
* yelling at the umpire
* swearing at the umpire
* waving your arms at the umpire
* arguing with the umpire
and then things like
* kicking or throwing the ball away in disgust
* refusing to give the ball back etc
What is not abuse is
* asking why that is a free verbally
* asking why that is a free with your arms or body language
The GWS wasn’t a free. We need the players to engage with an umpire but in a respectful way, asking why or what isn’t abuse, but once you raise your voice, get angry, then it is abuse. The same really in how we go about treating people day to day.
Pretty obvious to me
* yelling at the umpire
* swearing at the umpire
* waving your arms at the umpire
* arguing with the umpire
and then things like
* kicking or throwing the ball away in disgust
* refusing to give the ball back etc
What is not abuse is
* asking why that is a free verbally
* asking why that is a free with your arms or body language
The GWS wasn’t a free. We need the players to engage with an umpire but in a respectful way, asking why or what isn’t abuse, but once you raise your voice, get angry, then it is abuse. The same really in how we go about treating people day to day.
Pretty obvious to me
Yep. Have a look at how much questioning there is in the NBA without any problem.
you gotta wonder WTF is going on within the AFL and the Umpires association
i know it's all been said before, but what are they doing - See No, Hear No, Speak No Evil ??
it's actually wrecking the game
If they added another flog to the field, they know there are problems, and by that admittance, coaches in this situation should be able to ask these questions.
