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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

See they pulled the old 'unofficial sources have implied...' trick. In this case it was the 'unofficial sources say Coniglio had been arguing with the umps all day'. GWS have returned serve by unofficially scoffing at this.

In our EF travesty it was the 'unofficial sources say there is some secret grassy knoll Joseph Smith Mormon footage showing it was a point'.

FFS
 
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See they pulled the old 'unofficial sources have implied...' trick. In this case it was the 'unofficial sources say Coniglio had been arguing with the umps all day'. GWS have returned serve by unofficially scoffing at this.

In our EF travesty it was the 'unofficial sources say there is some secret grassy knoll footage showing it was a point'.

FFS
Coniglio --> GWS --> Adam Kingsley --> Richmond
 
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See they pulled the old 'unofficial sources have implied...' trick. In this case it was the 'unofficial sources say Coniglio had been arguing with the umps all day'. GWS have returned serve by unofficially scoffing at this.

In our EF travesty it was the 'unofficial sources say there is some secret grassy knoll footage showing it was a point'.

FFS
Umpire got the original HTB wrong. Was asked why it wasn't a free kick. Doubled down and went for the dissent over-reaction. Kingsley is 100% right. Coniglio is no Joel Selwood. Richardson can GAGF.
 
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Umpire got the original HTB wrong. Was asked why it wasn't a free kick. Doubled down and went for the dissent over-reaction. Kingsley is 100% right. Coniglio is no Joel Selwood. Richardson can GAGF.

Richardson was an uncomfortable balance of an authoritarian trying to play the humanitarian.

It was a shoddy attempt at covering up which is typical AFL ..

So I agree JJT, he can GAGF ..
 
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Very refreshing of Kingsley. Good on him.

Defending his player against the tyranny of lies and stupidity.
 
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As Kingsley said, admit you stuffed up and move on, don’t go making the game harder to adjudicate than it already is.

The AFL is like a compulsive liar, they just keep digging a bigger hole until they can’t see the light and can’t find a way out. Just tell the truth and take the umpires and umpiring off the bloody holy than thou pedestal. A lot more respect will be gained than the school kid forced method they’ve been ratcheting up since Vlad’s days.
 
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If only there was some way to avoid these penalties for dissent. :censored:
True - you can basically do nothing and never get penalized until we have thought umpires.

But it's also terrible leadership to sporadically / randomly at an ultra-low frequency punish the identical behavior and then take no accountability for the varying standard. When you have experienced umpires saying that this behavior isn't dissent then maybe we should listen to them too and just say this one was a mistake and coach the umpire to be better.

Otherwise just make a rule that players and umpires can't talk other than to mechanically ask where the mark is / nominate for the ruck etc. because that is basically where it is at if this is the standard.
 
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But it's also terrible leadership to sporadically / randomly at an ultra-low frequency punish the identical behavior and then take no accountability for the varying standard. When you have experienced umpires saying that this behavior isn't dissent then maybe we should listen to them too and just say this one was a mistake and coach the umpire to be better.

Never accepted 'but everyone else was doing it' from my kids so I certainly don't from grown men.

I look at cricket, where players work their whole lives for a shot at maybe 2 or 3 spots in the national side if they are lucky, and can go out and cop an awful decision that ends their shot. Yet the game demands they do nothing more than glare and not for too long.

All this cop out stuff about AFL players can't be expected to not question umpires is complete crap. Shut your mouth, don't make any gestures and get on with the game. Literally the easiest thing any AFL player will ever have to do on the field.
 
True - you can basically do nothing and never get penalized until we have thought umpires.

But it's also terrible leadership to sporadically / randomly at an ultra-low frequency punish the identical behavior and then take no accountability for the varying standard. When you have experienced umpires saying that this behavior isn't dissent then maybe we should listen to them too and just say this one was a mistake and coach the umpire to be better.

Otherwise just make a rule that players and umpires can't talk other than to mechanically ask where the mark is / nominate for the ruck etc. because that is basically where it is at if this is the standard.

Yep, you can play completely passion-less football and not get upset when, for example, an umpire pulls a free out of his rear end and completely changes the game.

We expect players to care about the result, we expect them to play with passion, to then expect they don't get upset when a BS decision like the free goal Carlton got last week happens is just rubbish.

Without passion the game is dead, why bother supporting a team without passion, might as well just go and play a video game.

You could argue that players shouldn't get upset, but with the massive inconsistencies in the adjudication you would need to have a lobotomy not to respond. That free to Carlton last week was a glaring example, how many times have players done exactly the same thing and not been penalised? If the umpires were consistent we wouldn't have these issues. Yes, the AFL is very much to blame with the way they keep changing the rules and coming up with weird interpretations, but the inconsistency must drive everyone crazy.

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See they pulled the old 'unofficial sources have implied...' trick. In this case it was the 'unofficial sources say Coniglio had been arguing with the umps all day'. GWS have returned serve by unofficially scoffing at this.
So the AFL can produce audio of the umpire warning Coniglio that if he complains again he will pay a dissent free kick?
 
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Never accepted 'but everyone else was doing it' from my kids so I certainly don't from grown men.

I look at cricket, where players work their whole lives for a shot at maybe 2 or 3 spots in the national side if they are lucky, and can go out and cop an awful decision that ends their shot. Yet the game demands they do nothing more than glare and not for too long.

All this cop out stuff about AFL players can't be expected to not question umpires is complete crap. Shut your mouth, don't make any gestures and get on with the game. Literally the easiest thing any AFL player will ever have to do on the field.
I never made a point that you can feel an emotion and also not take an action. Anyone arguing the opposite is FOS IMO and is effectively saying domestic violence (verbal) is ok if you get angry at your partner.

You completely missed my main point. You are blaming the victim here when the standard was just arbitrarily changed.

I said if the the standard is different just set that expectation.
 
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In the Rugby codes the Ref basically says to a player questioning a decision "I've made my decision, get on with the game" the vast majority of times the player does & that's it.

None of the childish reaction we often get from AFL umpires. Some of them are terribly thin skinned, makes me think they shouldn't be in the job. A bit of a sense of humour would go a long way to reducing tensions in these situations imo.
It used to work a treat years ago.
I remember one instance when I played, one of the opposition forwards kept "staging" for free kicks, the umpy looked at this guy with a big smile on his face & said "no Oscars are given in this game mate" everybody laughed including the oppo player.
I find the rules of rugby union very difficult but I really like the relationship between the referee and the players on the field.
As you say players are allowed to question but if they keep going they are warned and then if necessary sanctioned. It is a much better way of dealing with emotions on the field without losing control.
They also put it on the captain to control the players when someone is warned.
It’s just more mature
 
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