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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

MD Jazz said:
Are you sure the pother players are not allowed to engage with the refs? I notice discussions between players and refs all the time. Both league and union.

I think the key is just get on with the game. You rarely see players wrestle or fight nowadays because the game is too quick (and they don't want to waste the energy). There is a lot to be said with just getting on with the game.
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There was a blue wrestle at a stoppage vfl tiger v coburg and so the ump balled it up and the ball bounced beside them while they kept trying to choke each other out!!!

Were way more interested in the fight than the ball.

Funny.

Ball was 200m away before they separated.
 
eZyT said:
There was a blue wrestle at a stoppage vfl tiger v coburg and so the ump balled it up and the ball bounced beside them while they kept trying to choke each other out!!!

Were way more interested in the fight than the ball.

Funny.

Ball was 200m away before they separated.
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I bet it was noted by the coaches.
 
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BT Tiger said:
Are the umps going to start penalising players who appeal for insufficent intent?
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Geelong, and particularly Selwood, gesticulated and appealled for frees at every stoppage for years.

Brave hero best captain of the millenium.

But Conglio is a dissadent and carlton get 4 free points
 
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Can I selfishly say that I wish these a-holes would come out and state this controversy when it happens to us?
 
Brodders17 said:
It was mentioned on Friday that you have to show real intent to avoid deliberate being paid. Next minute a player picks the ball up a metre inside the boundary and just wanders across the line.
I doubt the rule states intent must be shown to keep it in when disposing of the ball but not when a player has the ball in possession.
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Madness
Ball is in the backline,players swarming,backman quickly puts it to his boot rather tham get paid holding the ball against him..
Ball goes 30 to 50 metres upfeild ..its game on...ball bounces over the line and its deemed delibetate..its infuriating madness
 
Legends of 2017 said:
What about when players, mainly defenders, blatantly punch the ball over the boundary when it should be a contested marking contest. They have no intention of keeping the ball in play. They deliberately want the ball out of bounds. No other intent than taking the ball out of play. Result: throw it in
An anomaly in the rules imo
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It is now...with the insufficient intent to keep the ball in play...
Punching the ball through the goals for a point when a pack flies for the mark in the goal square...another anomaly...
 
Dan Richardson's comment is a prime example of how the AFL can sign off on every dubious umpire decision as the correct call. In fact, I'm surprised he's gone into that detail and let the cat out of the bag.

Q: How could Coniglio's example be dissent when others weren't?
AFL: Well, different umpires have differing levels of temperament, so that was the RIGHT CALL

Q: But what about the other 60+ examples during the round where a player threw his arms out?
AFL: Well, different umpires have differing levels of temperament, so they were the RIGHT CALL

Q: But the umpire who gave the free against Coniglio didn't pay a free to another player last week?
AFL: Yes, but last week the umpire was in a different mind space, so his temperament at the time allowed him to be more lenient so RIGHT CALL

etc, etc
 
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MD Jazz said:
Are you sure the pother players are not allowed to engage with the refs? I notice discussions between players and refs all the time. Both league and union.

I think the key is just get on with the game. You rarely see players wrestle or fight nowadays because the game is too quick (and they don't want to waste the energy). There is a lot to be said with just getting on with the game.
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In the Rugby codes the Ref basically says to a player questioning a decision "I've made my decision, get on with the game" the vast majority of times the player does & that's it.

None of the childish reaction we often get from AFL umpires. Some of them are terribly thin skinned, makes me think they shouldn't be in the job. A bit of a sense of humour would go a long way to reducing tensions in these situations imo.
It used to work a treat years ago.
I remember one instance when I played, one of the opposition forwards kept "staging" for free kicks, the umpy looked at this guy with a big smile on his face & said "no Oscars are given in this game mate" everybody laughed including the oppo player.
 
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Dan's comments were complete rubbish...different levels of temperament...gimme a break.

If an AFL umpire is affronted by a player asking what the free was for, or why it wasn't paid, not only should they not be umpires, they should stay at home with the doors locked as it's a big, bad world out there.

Margetts' comments were spot on. Questioning a decision respectfully is NOT dissent. Period.
 
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Nico said:
Dan's comments were complete rubbish...different levels of temperament...gimme a break.

If an AFL umpire is affronted by a player asking what the free was for, or why it wasn't paid, not only should they not be umpires, they should stay at home with the doors locked as it's a big, bad world out there.

Margetts' comments were spot on. Questioning a decision respectfully is NOT dissent. Period.
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I wonder if a player asks the umpire "How's your temperament?", is that dissent?
Probably depends on how he's feeling at the time.
 
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larabee said:
Dan Richardson's comment is a prime example of how the AFL can sign off on every dubious umpire decision as the correct call. In fact, I'm surprised he's gone into that detail and let the cat out of the bag.

Q: How could Coniglio's example be dissent when others weren't?
AFL: Well, different umpires have differing levels of temperament, so that was the RIGHT CALL

Q: But what about the other 60+ examples during the round where a player threw his arms out?
AFL: Well, different umpires have differing levels of temperament, so they were the RIGHT CALL

Q: But the umpire who gave the free against Coniglio didn't pay a free to another player last week?
AFL: Yes, but last week the umpire was in a different mind space, so his temperament at the time allowed him to be more lenient so RIGHT CALL

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wow, missed the temperament comment. Yes, as you say, logically that is basically saying we'll be inconsistent as buggery because temperament.

Its just ludicrous, I don't think anyone is against dissent, the rule has always been there and its always been around and I for one don't have a problem with tightening it up. But this particular case was way over the top, and its just exposed the terrible inconsistency.

What they should have done, especially since Carlton ended up winning by over a goal, is said 'we went a bit overboard with this particular one'. Then work hard to make it more standard and consistent internally, which I don't think would be hard.

They are just consistently poor and disappointing.
 
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Richardson’s comments are just reflective of a culturally broken enterprise which, ironically, is always waving the culture and transparency flag about.

All he had to do was say we stand by our aim to improve the respect towards umpires but in this instance the controls around that were probably exceeded and we perhaps need to fine tune those or make the line a bit clearer.

Everyone would have accepted that and moved on. But no, in typically obstinate and no responsibility fashion, the AFL declined to take that path and instead trotted out their usual “we don’t make mistakes” bullsheet.

You can’t have respect for people or organisations that continually act that way. Their whole “nothing to see here” approach is becoming a moniker for them, even with a few people in the media who are now beginning to deride them and laugh at their all too familiar position on things.
 
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Next they’ll start penalising teams whose supporters are unhappy with their decisions and choose to loudly let them know it.
 
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