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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

I agree spook.

Just make it last touched.

Then at least there would be ONE rule that wasn't subject to interpretation, or bias.

Insane to have a sport where rules can vary so wildly from team to team and umpire to umpire.
Last disposal, not last touch. Still throw it in then.
 
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I reckon I counted at least 4 times today a Geelong player clearly got HTB and yet the umpires called play on or threw it up each time. And amazingly, I think the commentators even mentioned it, and how lucky Geelong were, at least 3 of those times. That’s when you know youve been gifted when they question the umpiring.

*smile* me no end when we play them and that happens. It’s either play on or a free kick because they’ve dropped their knees.
 
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I reckon I counted at least 4 times today a Geelong player clearly got HTB and yet the umpires called play on each time. And amazingly, I think the commentators even mentioned it, and how lucky Geelong were, at least 3 of those times. That’s when you know youve been gifted when they question the umpiring.

*smile* me no end when we play them and that happens. It’s either play on or a free kick because they’ve dropped their knees.
You're missing more of this when Pooncebourne plays. Daylight robbery. Barely heard the flogs call stand against them.
 
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One thing amazes me about footy is how you see something you've never seen before most weeks. Anyone see the *smile* screamer of a mark? Ripper mark, mark of the week contender, prob winner. Play on because ump called touched off the boot. he ended up getting a free, so no harm done, but he was understandably spewing. Then the kicker, they showed a replay, it wasn't touched off the boot!. geez.

s c h u l t z sets off the swear filter, there's another kicker.
 
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I haven't noticed any improvement with the addition of a 4th umpire.

Just more infuriating decisions
 
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Even the great AFL sycophant and protector of all things umpiring, Gerard Badger Healy, said there were bizarre interpretations of the HTB rule in the WCE v Freo game today.
 
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Even the great AFL sycophant and protector of all things umpiring, Gerard Badger Healy, said there were bizarre interpretations of the HTB rule in the WCE v Freo game today.
Did they go against west coast? He does seem to notice when they get a rough one.
 
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I think they just need to update the rule. If you are tackled and the ball is knocked out it should be holding the ball (if you had prior). Would fix up 90% of the ones you look at and go why?????
 
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I think they just need to update the rule. If you are tackled and the ball is knocked out it should be holding the ball (if you had prior). Would fix up 90% of the ones you look at and go why?????

Yep, the interpretation/grey area of "the ball was knocked out in the tackle" should be scrapped. If it's knocked out it's bc a great tackle forced it out, HTB.
 
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Last disposal, not last touch. Still throw it in then.
It was mentioned on Friday that you have to show real intent to avoid deliberate being paid. Next minute a player picks the ball up a metre inside the boundary and just wanders across the line.
I doubt the rule states intent must be shown to keep it in when disposing of the ball but not when a player has the ball in possession.
 
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What about when players, mainly defenders, blatantly punch the ball over the boundary when it should be a contested marking contest. They have no intention of keeping the ball in play. They deliberately want the ball out of bounds. No other intent than taking the ball out of play. Result: throw it in
An anomaly in the rules imo
 
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What about when players, mainly defenders, blatantly punch the ball over the boundary when it should be a contested marking contest. They have no intention of keeping the ball in play. They deliberately want the ball out of bounds. No other intent than taking the ball out of play. Result: throw it in
An anomaly in the rules imo
Yep. It’s explicitly called out as being excluded but is a massive anomaly. Also in the ruck Contest.
 
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Dan richardsons ticking off dissent in carltons fwd line a joke.

'If you challenge a decision you run the risk of a free kick'

Whitfield said 'how is that not a free' with bent elbows but fingers extended. No swear or abuse apparently. A simple question to ump which happens 50 times a quarter in every game at every level in every comp forever.

The rule would be better, clearer, more predictible

If you simply couldnt engage with ump

Bit like you cant touch them

You cant engage.

THEN everyone knows where they stand,

Rather than 'running the risk' if you dissent.
 
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Dan richardsons ticking off dissent in carltons fwd line a joke.

'If you challenge a decision you run the risk of a free kick'

Whitfield said 'how is that not a free' with bent elbows but fingers extended. No swear or abuse apparently. A simple question to ump which happens 50 times a quarter in every game at every level in every comp forever.

The rule would be better, clearer, more predictible

If you simply couldnt engage with ump

Bit like you cant touch them

You cant engage.

THEN everyone knows where they stand,

Rather than 'running the risk' if you dissent.
They need to clarify how a player can seek to learn what they did wrong so they don't do it again in the same game. This communication is critical and I'm sure there is a respectful way to do it.

They also need to clarify how umpires get feedback and improve. Putting them in cotton wool and saying nothing is ever wrong makes them worse. That is at least the perception the AFL creates with how it publicly communicates.
 
I think they just need to update the rule. If you are tackled and the ball is knocked out it should be holding the ball (if you had prior). Would fix up 90% of the ones you look at and go why?????

Well, actually, that is the rule:

18.6.2 Free Kicks - Holding the Ball: Prior Opportunity
Where a Player in Possession of the Football has had Prior Opportunity, a field Umpire shall
award a Free Kick if that Player does not Correctly Dispose of the football immediately
when they are Legally Tackled.

If the player has had prior opportunity to dispose of the ball, they MUST correctly dispose of the ball. Having it knocked out of your hands is not correct disposal.

The section which mentions dislodging of the ball is under 18.6.3 which relates to Holding the Ball where the player in possession of the ball has not had prior opportunity to dispose of the ball.

I can understand the confusion though, given the way this is adjudicated.

The rule does not need updating, it just needs to be adjudicated as it is written, but I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

DS
 
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They need to clarify how a player can seek to learn what they did wrong so they don't do it again in the same game. This communication is critical and I'm sure there is a respectful way to do it.

They also need to clarify how umpires get feedback and improve. Putting them in cotton wool and saying nothing is ever wrong makes them worse. That is at least the perception the AFL creates with how it publicly communicates.

We might as well use AI i reckon if you cant ask an ump

'Whats that for?' without your hands firmly on your thighs
 
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