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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

Can someone shed some light on Hipwoods run up for the goal after the quarter time siren (1st or 2nd, can't remember). How on earth was he considered to be on the line of the mark to goal. He gestures he's going to do the left footers arch, but run straight, no angle, completely off the mark, yet no play on, to bad, after the siren, and awarded a goal.
It’s the ”Buddy” rule they brought in a year or two ago. The player is allowed to deviate off the mark while having a shot at goal, but they have to kick it over the head of the man on the mark.
I stand to be corrected on that though
 
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It’s the ”Buddy” rule they brought in a year or two ago. The player is allowed to deviate off the mark while having a shot at goal, but they have to kick it over the head of the man on the mark.
I stand to be corrected on that though
Has to line up on the mark, then run a arch and kick over man on the mark.....to me he looked no where near it to start with
 
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Yeh, I've often wondered as the voice is alway the same. Unless they use some sort of software to obscure the real identity.

Intersting article earlier in the year in The Age. They do have names and are former goal umpires.


The bit that piqued my interest was this -

For every score, the analyst will give their opinion over a headset and the supervisor will ratify that decision or challenge it. They have 45 seconds to make a call, but they’ve managed to reduce that to an average of 21.6 seconds this season. If the analyst and the supervisor disagree, they will ultimately revert to the umpire’s call.

So that means on Thurs night both men agreed it was a definite point. And not within 45 seconds. And I would guess in even less time that the average of 21.6sec.

And yet, after 4 days and countless looks there is still no agreement on what the score was!!!! Yet these 2 agreed in about 15 seconds it was clearly a point?

The more I think about it the crazier it is.

And then this below from the article -

Do you see what I see?


The camera angles that the review centre has access to are contentious for the public. Does the AFL have access to secret angles that we don’t see on TV? The simple answer is no.
Aside from fixed cameras down the ground, and one on each goal post, the review centre receives only the camera angles that the broadcaster affords them in each game. At Optus Stadium for Fremantle v Sydney, Fox Footy had 11 cameras operating at any given time. For the marquee match at the MCG, free-to-air broadcaster Seven had 13.
If one camera happens to be searching for someone in the crowd at the time of a controversial incident, that’s one less angle the AFL has at its disposal.
Once an official review is taking place, the review centre controls exactly what viewers at home and at the ground can see. The broadcasters can only use the output being given to them by the review centre. It means there can be no confusion for fans.


So there are no extra cameras. And we are seeing what the reveiwer is seeing.
Once an official review is taking place, the review centre controls exactly what viewers at home and at the ground can see. The broadcasters can only use the output being given to them by the review centre. It means there can be no confusion for fans.

SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION FOR FANS!!!! FFS. It's even worse when you think about it. They haven't matched/spliced/time stamped footage as suggested by our resident rules/umpire expert. We see what they see.

This article was released in July so unless there has been a policy or procedure change it ius a complete farce. As snake suggested the AFL are saying nothing in the knowledge that it happened on a Thursday nioght, we've had 3 subsequent games to take the attention and the further we get away from the co0ck up the quieter the uproar becomes.

And finally, this from Brad Scott that basically sums up what a *smile* show the AFL run at times.

“We have the best technology available,” football boss Brad Scott says from inside the review centre. “Hopefully a lot of this stuff goes relatively unnoticed, but it’s a system where the umpires are still in control out on the ground and the club is still in control of all medical decisions on game day, but this function makes it a lot more efficient and minimises the risk of making a really poor decision.
The bit that piqued my interest was "and one on each goal post," Where is that footage?
 
I think/guess those are the cameras used to check if the ball has crossed the line and are at ground level. So I doubt they would have helped given the height of the ball?
 
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That wrestling incident last night with Berry and Oliver came after a centre bounce. It started with a Berry tackle that took Oliver to ground, then he kept holding Oliver not letting him go after the ball. Where were the umpires looking? One of them should be watching the last contest to look for those infringements so it should have been a demons free in front of goal. All Oliver can do is hit Berry's forearms as hard as he can to release the hold. At least Berry will get a few weeks for the eye gouge missing the Prelim.
 
They couldn’t stop the game quick enough tonight when Rayner got injured.
‘Player welfare is paramount to the AFL’ says Brayshaw. Yet when play went on around a semi conscious Prestia the AFL ticked it off - and being one down cost us a goal…..???
 
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They couldn’t stop the game quick enough tonight when Rayner got injured.
‘Player welfare is paramount to the AFL’ says Brayshaw. Yet when play went on around a semi conscious Prestia the AFL ticked it off - and being one down cost us a goal…..???
Literally the first thing I thought of. At every stage we are treated differently.
 
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They couldn’t stop the game quick enough tonight when Rayner got injured.
‘Player welfare is paramount to the AFL’ says Brayshaw. Yet when play went on around a semi conscious Prestia the AFL ticked it off - and being one down cost us a goal…..???
We were playing against the AFL Pussies umps out to give them any advantage
 
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I wasn't watching when Rayner went off but before you get too worked up check the situation the play stopped in.

Did one team own the ball or did the umpire own the ball?

The protocol is that the umpires don't stop play when a team owns the ball unless they absolutely have to or a stretcher is called.

If the ball goes neutral and there is an injured player in the vicinity who can quickly be removed then they pause.

The Prestia one didn't meet that criteria because we didn't call for the stretcher. If the ball went neutral in the Rayner one then that's the difference.
 
Geelong's General manager was working at the AFL when he changed the form of the game with new rules ,But now he is back at Geelong.
But now we have the brother of a team that is about to play in a GF, the head of football for the AFL.
Has the AFL ever heard of 'Conflict of interest?"
Maybe I can umpire a Richmond game
 
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Had no impact on the result, but some terrible umpiring IMO. They'd let it go then pluck out a soft free at best in front of goal. Frustrating. The free to give Geelong a goal after the siren at Q time was diabolical. Game was tight at the time and they gift a goal in a final. Just shouldn't happen.

Throws drive me nuts as usual, Selwood has a green light.

What annoys me too, as I've said often, the dominant side should get the rub with the umps, its always been the way and Geelong did tonight. But for some reason we are the exception to the rule.
 
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Free kicks for total Home & Away 2022
Lions 530
Pies 490
Crows 489
Freo 484
Swans 480
Cats 480
Blues 474
Dogs 472
Dons 456
Suns 450
Dees 449
Hawks 446
WC 441
Norf 436
Saints 434
Tigers 433
GWS 431
Port 415

You would think the difference from top team to bottom would be substantially less than the 115 which is five a game.
 
Free kicks for total Home & Away 2022
Lions 530
Pies 490
Crows 489
Freo 484
Swans 480
Cats 480
Blues 474
Dogs 472
Dons 456
Suns 450
Dees 449
Hawks 446
WC 441
Norf 436
Saints 434
Tigers 433
GWS 431
Port 415

You would think the difference from top team to bottom would be substantially less than the 115 which is five a game.
And yet the Pies, who play a very similar style to us, get looked after. One of the arguments about the lopsided count was that we play a style conducive to giving away frees.
 
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Geelong's General manager was working at the AFL when he changed the form of the game with new rules ,But now he is back at Geelong.
But now we have the brother of a team that is about to play in a GF, the head of football for the AFL.
Has the AFL ever heard of 'Conflict of interest?"
Maybe I can umpire a Richmond game
You will need a couple of offsiders. Can I be one of them?
 
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As a collective, they've been putrid all year.

Just a really poor year for umpiring, thanks SHocking.

The smallest consolation will be if Stevic doesn't get to umpire the GF.

He didn't miss us this season. Not once
 
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