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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

as for the goal not being payed for hitting the ump... Stephen hill then picked up the ball and walked over the goal line for a point whilst under no pressure ... thats a free kick to .. but wasn't paid of course ... abysmal
 
arlobill said:
as for the goal not being payed for hitting the ump... Stephen hill then picked up the ball and walked over the goal line for a point whilst under no pressure ... thats a free kick to .. but wasn't paid of course ... abysmal

Spot on, the reason that rule was brought in was because of Joel Bowden doing the exact same thing.
 
Tigerz73 said:
Spot on, the reason that rule was brought in was because of Joel Bowden doing the exact same thing.

The bloke upstairs should've said "it's a point, BUT the Fremantle player has just walked over the line under no pressure, therefore it's a free to Richmond"
That minute of footy was amateur hour at the highest level.
From the goal umpire, to the field umpire to the umpire upstairs
They all fail in all areas.
 
Tiger Ghost said:
Wont get any easier next week, Geelong have paid there dues, we are in for a long night with the umps.

They are bad but we don't help ourselves either. Sitting on the opposition backs, going into pack and making contact to opposition head
We struggle to tackle correctly in so many different ways.
I've never seen so many tackles where the player being tackled is still able to release the ball.
I haven't been to tackling in ages, are we practicing tackling and are we doing tackling drills?
For us to ever get a chance of playing in finals, our tackling "style" has to improve greatly...
 
Streak said:
Was at the game, and a couple of other baffling decisions immediately spring to mind.

Twice within about 5 minutes a free was paid for in the back near to where we were sitting. On both occassions I'll admit, the tackling player was definately in danger of giving away the free kick for in the back with the initial tackle.

But on both occassions, the umpire did not immediately pay the free. Instead, they waited until a typical wrestle developed between the players, and the ball was not going to come out in a hurry.

When the whistle was finally blown you would expect either holding the ball or a ball-up under such circumstances. But on both occassions the decision was in the back, and after the initial tackle, I could not for the life of me see how it could be in the back once the players were on the ground.

It looked like the umpire was playing advantage to see how the ball would come out.

I cannot say I have ever seen this interpretation of the in the back rule applied.
I've noticed that all year in all games, there are times when it is clearly holding the ball and the umpire waits and waits then says belatedly, in the back and you struggle to see how it was, I don't mind them being gun shy on the holding the ball decision, they have been too trigger happy the last 15 years with it, but you can't pluck one out just cause you don 't want a ball up.
 
I have noticed in the last few years, boundary umpires are easily intimidated, they always use locals for it and they make some baffling decisions, Mzungu kicked the ball out of bounds on the full at the Subiaco end and the umpire was standing not 3 metres from it in perfect position, he allowed the mark, I've seen this on too many occasions over the last few years, prior to that when there was only 1 boundary umpire either side of the ground, they rarely made a blue, now he can't say his view was impeded, he just chose to allow Fremantle to get the benefit of what he probably considered a 50/50 decision when there was no doubt it was out, now if he is prepared to allow one team to benefit and one not to, surely a field umpire would probably do that as well, there is 2 particular umpires I don't like getting and when I do, I notice with them, that they will pay the softest frees, be willing to give a 50 at the drop of a hat against my team but can't find the whistle the other way or just forget rules, one of them in particular made a comment about it in the media, which I thought he should of been taking to task on, and if he felt the need to make a comment about it, then he must spend time thinking how he can shaft us!
 
Talon said:
I have noticed in the last few years, boundary umpires are easily intimidated, they always use locals for it and they make some baffling decisions, Mzungu kicked the ball out of bounds on the full at the Subiaco end and the umpire was standing not 3 metres from it in perfect position, he allowed the mark, I've seen this on too many occasions over the last few years, prior to that when there was only 1 boundary umpire either side of the ground, they rarely made a blue, now he can't say his view was impeded, he just chose to allow Fremantle to get the benefit of what he probably considered a 50/50 decision when there was no doubt it was out, now if he is prepared to allow one team to benefit and one not to, surely a field umpire would probably do that as well, there is 2 particular umpires I don't like getting and when I do, I notice with them, that they will pay the softest frees, be willing to give a 50 at the drop of a hat against my team but can't find the whistle the other way or just forget rules, one of them in particular made a comment about it in the media, which I thought he should of been taking to task on, and if he felt the need to make a comment about it, then he must spend time thinking how he can shaft us!
Yeah, that out on the full one was amazing. Boundary umpire as about 5 metres away but was just like a deer in the headlights.
 
I thought the umpiring was pretty good tonight overall, the dockers booed and carried on a bit but what ya gotta know is, McPharlins allowed to grab the forward and swing him away from making a lead, umpires (and I have seen it live with my own eyes) see him do it and ignore it, Jack won the lotto when he got the free, clearly the ump wasn't at the pre game meeting!
 
tigertim said:
True! Well it's actually a pretty obvious free kick to *smile*. And the umps love paying them in front of goals too!
Umps weren't comfortable with *smile*'s kicking, preferred Ballantine.
 
I know it has probably been done to death but the sliding rule has to go, if you deemed to be sliding in to injure an opponent, yeah, report them and pay a free, you can't stop what we've been doing for 100 plus years, it's how we play the game, my little Talons do it when the play, kids have always done it, it's a natural reflex, the umpires are paying frees when there is no contact too, well thought out there rules committee, we have to clean out the rules committee and the AFL commission, thanks for your service Mr Demetriou for which you have been rewarded handsomely for, but we can't and won't allow you to wreck our game anymore, I think I may have mentioned this previously, my dad suggested one weekend, all fans boycott the games, as in no one turn up, do it 2 weeks in row if we have to, show a unaccountable minority that the undervalued majority are willing to stand up for the game!
 
I can see what it's trying to do and agree with the concept, but it's not working. Needs to be interpreted like kicking in danger rule, where the injury risk is key to the decision.
 
Thinking of turning up to the G with a fluro green ump uniform with the message I HATE RICHMOND written on it. ;D

Imagine the media shark frenzy. :hihi
 
smasha said:
Thinking of turning up to the G with a fluro green ump uniform with the message I HATE RICHMOND written on it. ;D

Imagine the media shark frenzy. :hihi
I dare ya! ;D
 
Streak said:
It looked like the umpire was playing advantage to see how the ball would come out.

I cannot say I have ever seen this interpretation of the in the back rule applied.

i dont think they are looking for advantage, instead they are avoiding ball-ups. if the ball comes out of the pack, no free, but if it doesnt they pay a free rather than have a stoppage.
 
Streak said:
It looked like the umpire was playing advantage to see how the ball would come out.

I cannot say I have ever seen this interpretation of the in the back rule applied.

I agree that you don't see this interpretation very often but it's the interpretation of advantage that should be always applied, as it is in other sports.

Many players stop when they hear the umpire's whistle while others try to play on, risking a 50m penalty if they don't have the advantage.

Time to end the farce of umpire blowing the whistle and then calling advantage 2 seconds later.
 
smasha said:
Thinking of turning up to the G with a fluro green ump uniform with the message I HATE RICHMOND written on it. ;D

Imagine the media shark frenzy. :hihi
:rofl, classic
 
The amount of puzzling and made up decisions against the tigers are mounting by the week, does anybody remember last year against st kilda when we got to 15 pts up in the last when the umpire pulled this out at the centre bounce, " free kick against maric for jumping up and down too early " and these mind boggling frees always happen when we have got out to a lead, the PA game in 2012 when McBurney went on his 3rd qtr rampage against us, how mant times does the opposition get a flurry of frees that gets hem back into the match and i'm not talking about the deep in defence frees it's the middle of the ground and forward of centre frees that seem to happen and when we finally get a free its the last line of defense.