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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

At the end of the day the umps get a lot of decisions wrong and the current interpretations are still inconsistent. Watching the Melbourne game was just farcical. Players just dropping and throwing the ball but no whistle? Constantly! Consistently crap.

The umps weren't the reason we lost the game though. The Hawks are the ones who are really giggling. They got complete rub of the green against the Maggotpies the previous week. The umps probably received death threats from Eddie coming into our game.
 
I was pretty peeved with a couple. One was the hold on Vickery (happened more than once) at the Punt road end. He put his arms out while yelling at the umpire to show he was being held (was still being held & I could see the jumper stretch) - umpire looked at him then looked away. I was sitting in the members on the northern pocket/flank area - clearly significantly further away & had no problem seeing it. On the other hand Cloke got everything (not denigrating his performance - he was tremendous) & a couple were pretty soft - technically there - but geez....

When the forward gets softees - the defender often gets a bit panicked & allows more space - so as not to infringe again.

Another was a pass to Maric on the wing. Dane swan running at him with his back to the play - arms out - running with the flight of the ball at Maric. At the last instant Maric fends him off as Swan stumbles trying to turn around and face the ball. Whistle....free kick...AGAINST MARIC ?? EXCUSE ME ?? Horrid call.

50/50 calls can always be difficult - I accept that - but we had a run of them - all against us in the 3rd. Is it a case of a team making their own luck ? I dunno. Not uncommon for the umpires to pay frees late in the game to the losing team if there is a discrepancy. When it doesn't matter.

Did Collingwood deserve to win ? Hell yeah - but I would have been so much happier to not have noticed the umpires. If making them all professional will significantly reduce threads like this - then I am all for it - but I dunno if it will.

As for this below the knees contact thing - the players don't know when it will be paid & the umpires don't know when they will pay it.
 
Barkdog said:
Totally agree, cant believe there hasnt been more said about this. Imagine a decision like that influencing a grand final?
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The goal review farce needs to end. The system is a waste of time. The goal umps second guess when previously they would have just backed themselves. The ones where the evidence is inconclusive they revert to the goal umps opinion anyway. The circumstances where the evidence suggests it should be changed (the ball might have been a centimetre from being completely crossed over the line in the Grigg goal) and they go with the original decision. There is obviously no directive to give the benefit of the doubt to the goal, so what is the point of having a review?

It was farcical that Grigg was sitting on the bench for a good minute before his kick was adjudicated.

Get proper technology or get 2 goal umps at both ends or accept the occasional error is made (like it has for 100 years) and get on with it.
 
MG said:
The goal review farce needs to end. The system is a waste of time. The goal umps second guess when previously they would have just backed themselves. The ones where the evidence is inconclusive they revert to the goal umps opinion anyway. The circumstances where the evidence suggests it should be changed (the ball might have been a centimetre from being completely crossed over the line in the Grigg goal) and they go with the original decision. There is obviously no directive to give the benefit of the doubt to the goal, so what is the point of having a review?

It was farcical that Grigg was sitting on the bench for a good minute before his kick was adjudicated.

Get proper technology or get 2 goal umps at both ends or accept the occasional error is made (like it has for 100 years) and get on with it.
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Just another case of the AFL having no idea what the fans want. every time there's a goal review you here a massive groan from the crowd.
 
One which I was livid about which no one's mentioned was the 50 to Cloke against Rance early in the 3rd quarter. Cloke takes a mark 25m out and tells Rance all about it and gets right up in his face. Rance gives him the slightest shove *in the chest* without stepping over the mark. Umpire Brett Rosebury sees the chance to make some new friends right in front of the Collingwood cheer squad/ferals at the Ponsford end and pays a ridiculous 50. Decent chance Cloke would've kicked it anyway (although as we all know he's more than capable of missing from 25m out) but it was one of those ones that just leaves you wondering what game we're playing. Pathetic.
 
Collingwood overran the mark all day. There was one just before halftime when Rance marked at right half back. Collingwood player runs over the mark, umpire calls play on (WTF?), Rance turns it over and they get a goal. Frustrating day all round.
 
spook said:
Collingwood overran the mark all day. There was one just before halftime when Rance marked at right half back. Collingwood player runs over the mark, umpire calls play on (WTF?), Rance turns it over and they get a goal. Frustrating day all round.
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I think that was the one where the commentators said 'this will be 50 because the ump told him to come back 5 metres and he came back 1....oh no its not its play on'. Unfathomable. 50/50s are one thing, basics like that are another. Once play stops, no excuse for basic stuff ups.
 
It's funny,
Years ago when I used to follow the Tigers more closely and go to all the games, there would often be talk at half time regarding the differences in free kicks between the sides and how in a lot of cases, the numbers would be evened up before the end of the game. Funny how often that actually happened. In other words, the umpires obviously aren't necessarily umpiring according to the rules and the spirit of the game.

It's the 50/50 decisions that the umpires make that can destroy a side. Often I see the Tigers tackle a player holding the ball for no reward but if a Tiger gets caught with the ball for a millisecond, that's it, a free kick to the opposition. What a load of BS. This sort of crap must have some effect on the team during the course of a game. Why even bother trying? It's particularly obvious in the case of players like Judd when even the commentators start coming up with all these rules about holding the ball. Apparently, some players need to be swung around 10 times, pinched on the left arse check and kissed on the cheek before it's holding the ball. It's not just holding the ball, it's all rules where the 50/50 decisions can effect the outcome of a game.

Rant over
 
The Swan play on call after running a few steps, being tackled and not disposing of the ball was the worst decision this year. And there's been a few shockers, but this one was putrid.
 
Actually I didn't think they were that bad! I must be getting soft.
 
poppa x said:
The Swan play on call after running a few steps, being tackled and not disposing of the ball was the worst decision this year. And there's been a few shockers, but this one was putrid.
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Swan's a protected species with the umpire's, much like our own Trent Cotchin is becoming, each team has that one player who is a umpire's pet, it's when a team start's having more than one umpire's pet is where the inconsistancy come's in to it.
 
Jukes Extended said:
The farce will no doubt continue tonight with razor Ray Chamberlain running the show.
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Look it will be a farce but with Razor you know he will play ridiculous soft frees to BOTH sides.

The problem is the sneaky ones Stevic who hates us and loves Carlton (as did Vozzo).

Ump 32 yesterday (who I'm sure thought he was Timmy Watson) - unbelieveably one way umpiring.

Lets just hope that rookie ump 25 gets a few more of our games. Must have been a swamp fox fan!
 
Umpiring always seems to reach new lows in the West. I'm steeling myself for some Barry Crocker decisions in Freo's favour (not that I'm one eyed or anything ;D)
 
Yesterday, third Q, game hot and in the balance, not 1, but 2, in succession, very soft frees paid to Ess directly in front of goal. 1 half there 1 not there. sheesh. You'd take 1, you wouldn't be happy about it, I hate umps influencing games or momentum.
 
tigersnake said:
Yesterday, third Q, game hot and in the balance, not 1, but 2, in succession, very soft frees paid to Ess directly in front of goal. 1 half there 1 not there. sheesh. You'd take 1, you wouldn't be happy about it, I hate umps influencing games or momentum.
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Yep Ump 32. Only a two goal game and Pies were coming. Neither were there IMO. The second was a disgrace.

Interestingly, shortly therafter umps changed at that end and Bombers probably should have had a real free but I think the more experienced ump was making a statement by letting it go.
 
Link to smart replay enclosed for those who want to check the last two goals of the third qtr.

For mine they were not decisions a reasonably competent unbiased ump could make.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-replay/?round=CD_R201301405&matchId=CD_M20130140501
 
lamb22 said:
Yep Ump 32. Only a two goal game and Pies were coming. Neither were there IMO. The second was a disgrace.

Interestingly, shortly therafter umps changed at that end and Bombers probably should have had a real free but I think the more experienced ump was making a statement by letting it go.
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I was trying to be generous, I agree, neither there, 2nd a disgrace. If that was us I would have had to go for a walk.
 
lamb22 said:
Link to smart replay enclosed for those who want to check the last two goals of the third qtr.

For mine they were not decisions a reasonably competent unbiased ump could make.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-replay/?round=CD_R201301405&matchId=CD_M20130140501
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Just saw those two frees.What a joke lol.

2 goals from umpiring BS.

Has every one forgotten Bannisters performance for them in the Dreamtime game.Won the game on his own that maggot.

Expect to get reamed tonight.

Just put a screen in front of your TVs.

Makes the blood boil watching those 2 frees.

We'd never in a million years get frees like that.

King last week tripped=playon.
Essendon player tripped=freekick.

The famous Essendon umpiring association is coming back.
 
smasha said:
We'd never in a million years get frees like that.
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Generally I'd agree with you, but that little tassie tiger ump no 25 gave us a few like that against the Saints.

In particular the Riewoldt steadier in the last and earlier a very soft one to Vickery in marking contest.

Mind you, it was about time!

Tonight Donlon and Chamberlain should be OK (relatively speaking) Dalgleish is the WA boy (thank god Margetts isn't there)
 
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