Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

[larabee]

any other club, that video review (wrong) decision would be all over the papers

Goal ump who was a metre away facing the contest was about to signal a goal.
Field umpire who was looking at the back of the contest who was who knows how far away, overrides the goal ump and asks for a review.
The player who alledgedly "touched" it, only appeals after two of his team mates run in to appeal.
Video review ump then decides that the footage clearly shows it was touched and changes the ruling.

Fair dinkum, there was no way you could clearly say that the ball was touched from that footage.

why do we have to put up with this garbage?

 

[MB78]

any other club, that video review (wrong) decision would be all over the papers

Goal ump who was a metre away facing the contest was about to signal a goal.
Field umpire who was looking at the back of the contest who was who knows how far away, overrides the goal ump and asks for a review.
The player who alledgedly "touched" it, only appeals after two of his team mates run in to appeal.
Video review ump then decides that the footage clearly shows it was touched and changes the ruling.

Fair dinkum, there was no way you could clearly say that the ball was touched from that footage.

why do we have to put up with this garbage?

Good post. A very poor result for football that decision. What if the decision decided a GF.

 

[yandb]

The umpiring didn't cost us the match last night. Mistakes were made but with no bias, we copped some bad ones and Carlton copped some bad ones. Time for some hard decisions Richmond.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Really noticed lately with so many umpires that so many simply don't have a good feel for the game...is it just me or do we have way too many rules?really didn't enjoy watching that game a lot to do with the umpiring an rules

 

[Ian4]

Can someone explain the houli mark that was switched to a free kick in the goal square late in the game? Not being smart, I just didn't know what it was for...?

watched it at pub and all spectators, fans on both teams an neuatrals thought it was terrible,

and whwta happened with that goal by richmond, goal umpire said goal as did boundary. gibbs says he touched it, goes to review

review is inconclusive, and they give it a point WTF?

Is that really what happened with the Edwards goal? Dead set, that was right in front of we and 100% it was a goal. It was that obvious a replay wasn't necessary. Even the scum supporters said it was a goal. And to rub salt into the wounds, they took it all the way and scored themselves. Footy sucks sometimes.

 

[Punxsutawney Phil]

Can someone explain the houli mark that was switched to a free kick in the goal square late in the game? Not being smart, I just didn't know what it was for...?

Is that really what happened with the Edwards goal? Dead set, that was right in front of we and 100% it was a goal. It was that obvious a replay wasn't necessary. Even the scum supporters said it was a goal. And to rub salt into the wounds, they took it all the way and scored themselves. Footy sucks sometimes.

Rance held Thornton in the square. Rance is an idiot.

 

[PBoRSM]

The umpiring didn't cost us the match last night. Mistakes were made but with no bias, we copped some bad ones and Carlton copped some bad ones. Time for some hard decisions Richmond.

The fact that the free kick count was relatively even doesn't mean the imps did a good job.

Once again the umpiring was terrible.

At the 17 minute mark of the second quarter, the umps had collectively payed 31 free kicks. That's 31 stoppages of play in just 48 minutes of footy. The players weren't that rough last night.

Some one clearly said something at half time as by the last quarter they had put the whistle away. In fact the last quarter yesterday was the best display of umpiring I've seen since about round 6.

Obviously deliberate out of bounce is the afls rule of the week. The one paid against carlton at the city end in the 2nd quarter was a truly woeful decision. Blues player grabbed the footy at the back of the pack and under pressure, slams it on the boot to clear the pack, it skews off the side of the boot and dribbles out of bounce 45 metres away - free kick. Sure, I bet he was glad that the ball went out of bounce, but the rule is that it must be the player's sole intention. I'd suggest his main intention was to clear the ball from the oppositions goal square before he was crunched by 4 tiger tacklers. I attracted a few side ways glances for openly deriding the umpires after they awarded us a free, but the afl and umps need to see that it's not always club bias behind our protestations of umpire decisions.

I made an early comment after a very early soft free kick that if they were paying that, there would be 300 free kicks paid. Up until half time, I looked like a genius.

And I'll leave the video review system alone, I'm sure there's already another thread dealing with the most ill thought out change to the game since the need for clash jumpers.

 

[JB11]

it was a terrible decision that deliberate out of bounds

it was a bad as the kayne pettifried one in perth a few years ago , kicked it some 50 metres into an open forward line and it went out , amazing

 

[Rfc4Ever]

The umpiring is getting pretty bad. Something needs to be done.

Management should approach the AFL after last nights umpiring. Absolotely disgraceful.

 

[Tigion]

Plain and simple Umpires need to be Full Timers they need to eat drink sleep umpiring

 

[Ian4]

Plain and simple Umpires need to be Full Timers they need to eat drink sleep umpiring

Been arguing this for years. They also need to have the brownlow voting taken off them

 

[acatman]

may sound "dumb" but the umpires are just part of the problem, its the "rule of the week", and constant changing of the rules, along with the growing amount of grey areas in the rules. The whole package needs to be looked at IMHO

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

They attempted to penalise every little infringement, which just added to an already dire spectacle. The amount of umpire intereference has never been greater, and the game has never been poorer for it.

 

[Rocklea Tiger]

may sound "dumb" but the umpires are just part of the problem, its the "rule of the week", and constant changing of the rules, along with the growing amount of grey areas in the rules. The whole package needs to be looked at IMHO

Doesn't sound dumb to me. Geishen is a big part of the problem. For someone who was as tough as he was as a player, he seems very content with then AFL's arm fairly shoved up his arse. Don't recall it being quite this bad under Schwabby. He seemed to have footy principles. Not sure what Giesch has got.

There needs to be constructive criticism on umpiring not just constructive comment. There is a difference. Umpires are grown men capable of being held accountable for their decisions, like so many in the workforce. Granted their's is a little more public, but it doesn't need to be if they fear it.

 

[YinnarTiger]

The rule change to allowing a video review of a goal umpire's decision is the worst rule change I have ever seen and I have been watching footy since 1956 (back in the days when the rules were left alone).

As with cricket, the technology simply doesn't exist to make 100% correct judgements.

Historically a field umpire, let alone a boundary umpire, could never overrule a goal umpire's decision. They could discuss it with the goal umpire but it was always his/her final decision that ruled.

Sometimes the goal umpires get it wrong, but how many mistakes per game do they make compared to a field umpire's mistakes?

 

[grumpytiger]

Sometimes the goal umpires get it wrong, but how many mistakes per game do they make compared to a field umpire's mistakes?

This is a really interesting point. The review system was brought in to prevent goal umpire errors that could affect the outcome of a match. But you're so right - the number of errors made by goal umpires is tiny compared with the errors that are made by field umpires each game. Why aren't the AFL's resources should be going into reducing the number of errors the field umpires make, if they're so worried about the outcome of games?

It's like they're picking the soft target because the real problem is too hard. All they've done is make everything worse.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

The rule change to allowing a video review of a goal umpire's decision is the worst rule change I have ever seen and I have been watching footy since 1956 (back in the days when the rules were left alone).

As with cricket, the technology simply doesn't exist to make 100% correct judgements.

Historically a field umpire, let alone a boundary umpire, could never overrule a goal umpire's decision. They could discuss it with the goal umpire but it was always his/her final decision that ruled.

Sometimes the goal umpires get it wrong, but how many mistakes per game do they make compared to a field umpire's mistakes?

It shouldn't be overlooked that it was rushed in, after minimal trialling.

"I'm confident we can get it right with the right technology." Well guess what Jeffrey, you didn't have it then and you don't have it now.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Really noticed lately with so many umpires that so many simply don't have a good feel for the game...is it just me or do we have way too many rules?really didn't enjoy watching that game a lot to do with the umpiring an rules

Maggots aren't required to have any feel for or understanding of the game whatsoever. They are there simply to adjudicate according to the letter and clauses of rule book.
They see an insignificant nudge or hold they prance up and down a bit then penalise whoever they deem to be cheating.
Players get decapitated or buried under six feet of M.C.G. turf and the maggot blinks at the wrong moment he can't claim to have cleary seen the infringement the 50,000 people can see from a kilometre away so he flaps his arms and play continues.
Useless bastards can rarely be blamed for truly influencing the result of a game but their incompetence just drives everyone insane.
It's no wonder that supporters from all clubs hate the maggots.

 

[jb03]

This is a really interesting point. The review system was brought in to prevent goal umpire errors that could affect the outcome of a match. But you're so right - the number of errors made by goal umpires is tiny compared with the errors that are made by field umpires each game. Why aren't the AFL's resources should be going into reducing the number of errors the field umpires make, if they're so worried about the outcome of games?

It's like they're picking the soft target because the real problem is too hard. All they've done is make everything worse.

I was all for the "goal line technology" as though it wouldn't be perfect it would at least minimise errors. But i think after watching it in action the error rate if anything has increased. Though no doubt the AFL spin doctors will tell us otherwise.

 

[22nd Man]

Yep... once the "cop out" option is available officials will use it.
Field umpires have always been able to intervene in goal umpiring decisions especially if the ball has been touched off the boot or in transit.

My concern this year, the boundary umpires all of a sudden seem to have grown radar. They can miss a player being king hit 10 m in front of them but have "vision" which allows them to see a little finger grazing a ball moving at 100knh. That is enough to go to the video and as others have pointed out the technology is virtually useless and umpires end up guessing with pathetic outcomes like last night.

Maybe that there are 4 of them and only have to cover 100 m of boundary they feel under utlised and so interpose themselves in the game to feel useful? They used to be anonymous ball tossers now they are stuffing the game up.