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I reckon we will see a heap of pick trading going on either before or on draft night, even if we don't see too many of the top 10 changing.

Think of it like this (ignoring all academy picks):

1 - Lalor (Rich)
2 - Tauru (North)
3 - FOS (Carlton) - cue puke emoji
4 - Draper (Adelaide)
5 - Armstrong (Mel)
6 - Smith / Langford (Rich)
7 - Lindsay (Saints)
8 - Smith / Langford (Saints)
9 - Smillie (Melb)

Then it opens up to our 2 back to back picks.

Port apparantly into Travaglia - maybe 13 and 29 for 10?
Then are West Coast totally into Allan? Maybe - could they do 12 and F2 for 11?

Pushes our 2 picks back from 10 and 11 to 12 and 13 but gaining 2 2nd rounders. Previous drafts have shown precedent for this sort of value being paid by clubs in the past.

Could we then do our own trade up using 29, we'd have the flexibility then being as we would have more picks than list spots.

Reckon this draft is really setting ourselves up to be able to dictate nearly everything that goes on within the 1st 30 or so picks.
FWIW I am being told there is a big chance Adelaide will overlook Draper and take Langford.
 
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I am fairly sure we want Fos and Lalor and it’s only going to happen if we get pick 2…
Essentially New Chimp and New Dusty….

I think we also want Jagga/Langford/Smilie at 6… hence the trial VFL requests…

To achieve this you would think we would have to get Saints pick 7.

Trade 10 and 20 to Saints for pick 7.
Then offer North 7 and 18 for pick 2…. Bc they need to deal.. and we agree to not pick Tarau.

We end up with 1,2,6,11,23,24
Saints have 8,10,20

Personally I think Carlton go Draper in this scenario @Dyer'ere has Jagga to Adelaide at 4….. then Melbourne… only threat to North…. At 5…. Dunno??

Reckon North get The Viking and Trainor.

We get either Langford or Smillie at 6.

Or something akin to this…

I’d still like to keep a 10 or 11 (Lindsey/Berry/Armstrong)however if we are going Cadman next year then the trade 6/11 for 2/F1 makes sense…. and we keep 18…

Regards,
Stan
 
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I am fairly sure we want Fos and Lalor and it’s only going to happen if we get pick 2…
Essentially New Chimp and New Dusty….

I think we also want Jagga/Langford/Smilie at 6… hence the trial VFL requests…

To achieve this you would think we would have to get Saints pick 7.

Trade 10 and 20 to Saints for pick 7.
Then offer North 7 and 18 for pick 2…. Bc they need to deal.. and we agree to not pick Tarau.

Thats a hell of a lot of assets to give up for a player we rate 2nd best in this draft that has shown little to indicate he is even really worth a top 5 spot in the last 3 years of draft picks. FOS is not an 18 year old Reid , McKercher , JHF , Sheezel
Pick #10 could be Travaglia #20 possibly JWhitlock and #18 Shannahan

Shannahan , JWhitlock , Travaglia all for FOS ?
 
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Righto, old man. Just for you:

Port:
Out: 13, 29
In: 10, 37

Why? They want Travaglia and so do West Coast. They now pick before West Coast.

GWS:
Out: 15, 37
In: 23, 24

Why? Brings their 4th pick into the deep section of the draft and gives them 16, 21, 23, 24 so some degree of control over who they bring in. Also gives them the option to trade for an F1 while still holding a strong hand in this draft. And the coveted first pick of night 2.

St Kilda:
Out: 7, 32
In: 13, 18

Why? Gives them an extra pick in the first round. Giving 7 instead of 8 assures Richmond they won't steal our guy (Smillie) (Heheh, see what I did there?).

Richmond:
Out: 6, 10, 18, 20, 23, 24
In: 2, 7, 15, 29, 32, F2

Why? Secures pick 2, doesn't really affect getting Smillie given North is picking Tauru.

North:
Out: 2, F2
In: 6, 20

Why? Get Tauru and a good pick where they'll have a stack of options.

We now have 1, 2, 7, 11, 15, 29, 32 and an F2.
Lalor, FOS, Smillie, Hotton/Allan, Whitlock, and who the hell knows.
29 - Tom simms
32 - noah mraz
Forget whitlock
Get Lindsay instead
 
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Trade 10 and 20 to Saints for pick 7.
Then offer North 7 and 18 for pick 2
Respect your work Stan but that's a no, no, no from me.

Think about it this way. The draft is set up to provide every club with one first-round pick.

Matched bids and compensation picks mean that some clubs are lucky enough to have two picks in the first round.

You might even have three picks if you get a first-rounder for a want-away player.

In seasons past, two or three picks in the first round was your club's ticket to a significant upgrade of the list.

We have an unprecedented seven picks in the first round of a draft that is considered to run deep into the 20s with high quality talent, plus we have the first pick of the second round.

I reckon you'd need to have your head read if you gave up even one of those picks unless it was for a significant climb up the order (or tipping a first-rounder into next season).

We currently have holes everywhere. We actually need eight quality players coming into the place.

This is a deep draft at the right time for us, and we have massive collateral.

I wouldn't imperil a single one of our picks without consequential upside.
 
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I am fairly sure we want Fos and Lalor and it’s only going to happen if we get pick 2…
Essentially New Chimp and New Dusty….

I think we also want Jagga/Langford/Smilie at 6… hence the trial VFL requests…

To achieve this you would think we would have to get Saints pick 7.

Trade 10 and 20 to Saints for pick 7.
Then offer North 7 and 18 for pick 2…. Bc they need to deal.. and we agree to not pick Tarau.

We end up with 1,2,6,11,23,24
Saints have 8,10,20

Personally I think Carlton go Draper in this scenario @Dyer'ere has Jagga to Adelaide at 4….. then Melbourne… only threat to North…. At 5…. Dunno??

Reckon North get The Viking and Trainor.

We get either Langford or Smillie at 6.

Or something akin to this…

I’d still like to keep a 10 or 11 (Lindsey/Berry/Armstrong)however if we are going Cadman next year then the trade 6/11 for 2/F1 makes sense…. and we keep 18…

Regards,
Stan
The mail is strong, Stan, that Blair is in discussions with Port about 10 and 13. It's almost a fact.

And there has been scuttlebutt about Blair and GWS 15. Your take is logical. Unless Blair is working on a few little deals to maximise what we get back. And to ensure we don't overpay.

I think you're spot on about Blair trying to get 2 and keep 11. Once we lock that trade in we know a lot about the first ten. Your mail that it was Lalor ahead of FOS for RFC looked then and now deadset prophetic.

The deals look like they'll be more intricate than we first thought. But pick #2. You know exactly why we want it.
 
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The mail is strong, Stan, that Blair is in discussions with Port about 10 and 13. It's almost a fact.

And there has been scuttlebutt about Blair and GWS 15. Your take is logical. Unless Blair is working on a few little deals to maximise what we get back. And to ensure we don't overpay.

I think you're spot on about Blair trying to get 2 and keep 11. Once we lock that trade in we know a lot about the first ten. Your mail that it was Lalor ahead of FOS for RFC looked then and now deadset prophetic.

The deals look like they'll be more intricate than we first thought. But pick #2. You know exactly why we want it.
The GWS part is a mystery to me

I was thinking something like
10 for 13 and 29 with Port
7 for 11 and 20 with St Kilda
7 and 18 with North for 2 ( for north 7 is probably as good as 6 if they trust we won't pick Tauru)

we would have 1,2,6,11,23, 24, 29

10,18,20 for 2 and 29 would be the net result. Trade 23 or 24 for an F1 and a later 2024 pick and keep 7 picks
 
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The GWS part is a mystery to me

I was thinking something like
10 for 13 and 29 with Port
7 for 11 and 20 with St Kilda
7 and 18 with North for 2 ( for north 7 is probably as good as 6 if they trust we won't pick Tauru)

we would have 1,2,6,11,23, 24, 29

10,18,20 for 2 and 29 would be the net result. Trade 23 or 24 for an F1 and a later 2024 pick and keep 7 picks
What happened to 13 we get from Port?
 
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The GWS part is a mystery to me

I was thinking something like
10 for 13 and 29 with Port
7 for 11 and 20 with St Kilda
7 and 18 with North for 2 ( for north 7 is probably as good as 6 if they trust we won't pick Tauru)

we would have 1,2,6,11,23, 24, 29

10,18,20 for 2 and 29 would be the net result. Trade 23 or 24 for an F1 and a later 2024 pick and keep 7 picks
We'd have 1 2 6 13 23 24
We'd give 10 11 18 20 for 2 13 29
 
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We'd have 1 2 6 13 23 24
We'd give 10 11 18 20 for 2 13 29

I could live with that hand. I think its a certainty that we trade some picks, we will leave at least 1 spot for the rookie draft and potentially 1 for the SSP (and I expect we trial 3-4 players).

1,2,6 and 13 would give us 4 excellent players, what we do with 23 and 24 I'm not sure. Would we slide back? Trade into next year? A mix of both? We'd have plenty of options.