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I don't mind f/s but maybe there needs to be some tweaks to the system. Maybe we have to protect the 1st 5 or 1st 10 picks from bids. Whilst we are at it, lets protect the top 10 from compensation picks, so the earliest a compo pick can be provided is at Pick 11.

We live in a socialist system, whereby the bottom clubs should get the best players but if they don't protect the top 10, this is the scenario that occurs. Brissy have basically set up their midfield for the next 10 years and they get to complete the trifecta next year with Daniel Annable. They've essentially been able to build the top tier of their next midfield whilst at the top by getting players in the top 5 of the draft.
I am certainly against basing compensation for free agency on ladder position Mr P. I would have thought a particular band should be a pick number. Maybe for a band 1 it would be pick 11 (those who miss finals have their picks protected) and only use ladder position if there is more than one band 1?

Then we stop the Pick 2 for McKay, pick 8 for Battle, Pick 3 for Frawley and Pick 18 for Buddy type scenarios
 
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They could, but we'd be paying way overs so I doubt it. Plus, Norf would want to get a great deal like that locked away right now. But they haven't.

Maybe the 6+11 for 2 and F1 is still possibly on the table, and they are interviewing players that they weren't expecting to be in that range of early to mid teens. They could also potentially trade that 11 down to 2 later picks (maybe the Swans 19 and 21) and turn Pick 2 into 3 in the 1st round. They are probably in that stage of their rebuild where they have taken their top tier next players and want to build the support crew and can then pick the eyes out of their positional needs with those 3 picks.

If it were me as North list manager, thats what I'd be doing.

Imagine if they were that enamoured with Tauru, that with 2 they still get him at 6, and then get 2 picks in that range of 19 and 21. Would be a great trade. Yes they've lost their 1st next year, but I reckon they will back themselves in to improve, IMO others around them might improve more, but I would expect them to improve on where they are. That future could end up pick 6 or 7 which they will feel they did ok with their 2 extra picks this year to ignore that pick.
 
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Maybe the 6+11 for 2 and F1 is still possibly on the table, and they are interviewing players that they weren't expecting to be in that range of early to mid teens.
That is the only other possibility I see. But I still reckon we've closed down 6 with them. 6 is a known quantity and in a decent draft. F1 isn't.

One way or another, I'll be surprised if we don't land pick 2.
 
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It's 100% better to wait on any trades for Pick 2 unless we already know the top 5 is locked in. We might as well do it on draft night instead of now, as we will only have a clearer picture of who will be available at 6.

We won't be less informed on draft night, we'll only be more informed, and we have Pick 1, so nothing can change by the time we'd be able to bid on Pick 2.
 
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It's 100% better to wait on any trades for Pick 2 unless we already know the top 5 is locked in. We might as well do it on draft night instead of now, as we will only have a clearer picture of who will be available at 6.

We won't be less informed on draft night, we'll only be more informed, and we have Pick 1, so nothing can change by the time we'd be able to bid on Pick 2.
Exactly. The more information the better.
 
Could Not Melbourne be interviewing on the basis of 6 + 18? (I'm not across the interviews/medicals bit: who reported that?)
I would imagine a lot of clubs are doing a lot of interviews to know how they value certain pick ranges- ie North might find 2 guys who "should" be available at 15 & 16 to make a swap with GWS worth while. Or they might decide that there value isnt there.
Likewise we would be ranking guys into the 40s to know how hard we should haggle for a later pick or 2 to be thrown into any swaps. Or we might decide they arent worth it.

With live trading almost any club can target picks at almost any range.
 
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I am certainly against basing compensation for free agency on ladder position Mr P. I would have thought a particular band should be a pick number. Maybe for a band 1 it would be pick 11 (those who miss finals have their picks protected) and only use ladder position if there is more than one band 1?

Then we stop the Pick 2 for McKay, pick 8 for Battle, Pick 3 for Frawley and Pick 18 for Buddy type scenarios
What did GC get for Lunch and May?
 
What about 18 20 & 23 for pick 2 + north's future 1st.
i assume this is a joke, but so many people around here seem to think North are desperate to sell pick 2 for a 60% discount or something that I can't tell.
If Norf are flat out right now interviewing players in the teens, medicals etc, I'm thinking we've offered 11 and 18 for 2 and won't move.

We have all the leverage here. We don't desperately have to get pick 2. Norf on the other hand will be paying way overs on Tauru at 2 and will miss an opportunity to get 2 not 1, very good players in a solid draft.
North aren't going to risk trading a guaranteed Tauru number 2 pick for a 50/50 chance pick in pick 10. Posters have gotta give up this thought that North have any desperation in not overpaying for Tauru.

This discussion is along the same discussion as us "overpaying" for Brisbanes pick 20 as if the club cared what points we gave up.

If we had Martin as our top ranked player in 2009 when other clubs had him in the 6-12 bracket that do you think we'd have risked trading pick 3 for pick 10 & 18, or whether we'd care about "overpaying" at pick 3?

Absolutely-*smile*-not.

Their priorities will be exactly in this order
  1. Ensuring Tauru
  2. Whether it's worth trading down or not.

Priority two won't take precedence over priority one. Pick 6 has to be involved.

We need to decide if the player we want in FOS is worth trading two kids for one kid because they'll get the player they want at 2.

It's our level of desperation in trading pick 6 that'll decide this.
 
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i assume this is a joke, but so many people around here seem to think North are desperate to sell pick 2 for a 60% discount or something that I can't tell.

North aren't going to risk trading a guaranteed Tauru number 2 pick for a 50/50 chance pick in pick 10. Posters have gotta give up this thought that North have any desperation in not overpaying for Tauru.

This discussion is along the same discussion as us "overpaying" for Brisbanes pick 20 as if the club cared what points we gave up.

If we had Martin as our top ranked player in 2009 when other clubs had him in the 6-12 bracket that do you think we'd have risked trading pick 3 for pick 10 & 18, or whether we'd care about "overpaying" at pick 3?

Absolutely-*smile*-not.

Their priorities will be exactly in this order
  1. Ensuring Tauru
  2. Whether it's worth trading down or not.

Priority two won't take precedence over priority one. Pick 6 has to be involved.

We need to decide if the player we want in FOS is worth trading two kids for one kid because they'll get the player they want at 2.

It's our level of desperation in trading pick 6 that'll decide this.
I think you are right. my suggestion was based on the idea of somehow North accepting 11 + 18.

I would go to the draft with all our picks unless a deal is too good to pass up.
 
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That is the only other possibility I see. But I still reckon we've closed down 6 with them. 6 is a known quantity and in a decent draft. F1 isn't.

One way or another, I'll be surprised if we don't land pick 2.
Sure they would love Tauru and Armstrong or like, but if we have said no on a trade that includes 6, then I can’t see them getting there.
And pick 2 and keeping F1, is hardly a punishment.
IMO Jagga looks like a perfect fit.
 
What about 18 20 & 23 for pick 2 + north's future 1st.
I would bite their hand off for that deal but no chance to go through

My preference
#10 to Port for #13 + #29
#6 + #13 to NorF for #2 + F1

#23 - Traded to Essendon for F1
#24 - Traded to St Kilda for F1

#1 , #2 , #11 , #18 , #20 , #29

4 x 1st rounders in 2025 Richmond , NorF , Essendon , St Kilda
 
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I would bite their hand off for that deal but no chance to go through

My preference
#10 to Port for #13 + #29
#6 + #13 to NorF for #2 + F1

#23 - Traded to Essendon for F1
#24 - Traded to St Kilda for F1

#1 , #2 , #6 , #11 , #18 , #20 , #29

4 x 1st rounders in 2025 Richmond , NorF , Essendon , St Kilda

Didn't you just trade 6 to North in that scenario
 
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What did GC get for Lunch and May?

According to google

Gold Coast list manager Craig Cameron confirmed to SEN 1116, the Suns would receive Pick 3 as compensation. The 25-year-old has signed a massive seven-year deal where he's expected to earn just shy of $1 million per season, anchoring him at Richmond until 2025


As part of a hectic 2018 trade period, the Demons acquired May, as well as fellow defender Kade Kolodashnij, from Gold Coast in exchange for Pick 6.