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Top 10 predicitions?

Just on Garlett, he kicked 2 yesterday and was named 2nd best for Swan Districts. The reports indicate he did some spectacular things.
 
Too early for accurrate predictions, however, will give you an idea based on best guess at this stage.

Assumptions:

1. GWS have the first 3 picks after trading Mini draft picks to GC and Melb.
2. Viney will go in the 2nd round as a result
3. Daniher will go at pick 10. Possible that we will be calling his name during the F/S bid meeting to ensure they do.

Top 10:

- I suspect GWS will take Whitfield, Grundy and Toumpass with the first 3.
- Melbourne will pick O'Rourke at 4
- Dogs will take 2 of Mayes, Plowman and Menzel
- Port to take Menzel or Kennedy (assuming Mayes gone)
- Brisbane will be looking for an inside mid to replace Black. Guessing Wines but thinking he may drop. Gartlett, Kennedy possibles as is Vlastuin.
- Richmond - Yes I have heard the rumours re Vlastuin and agree he is a logical pick given leadership and contested play (Dimma would love him). Personally I think Wines is overhyped. I can see him slipping down given a lack of leg speed and questionable kicking. Given how high we rate kicking skills I just cant see us taking him if still avaliable. The smokey for our pick I think is Jackson Macrae. Neat left foot, clean, classy and with some pace. I like him more than any of Vlaustin, Wines or Kennedy. Gartlett I doubt we will pick.

Macrae to Richmond.........get it done FJ. 8-
 
Given our last 2 first round picks in Conca and Ellis are your reliable - hard at it player, I think we are ready for that burst, x factor player who has pace and can break open a game. Haven't seen any juniors etc so sight unseen, I would go a Gartlett so we don't become a one paced team but still builds on our midfield depth.
 
Mr Magic said:
Too early for accurrate predictions, however, will give you an idea based on best guess at this stage.

Assumptions:

1. GWS have the first 3 picks after trading Mini draft picks to GC and Melb.
2. Viney will go in the 2nd round as a result
3. Daniher will go at pick 10. Possible that we will be calling his name during the F/S bid meeting to ensure they do.

Top 10:

- I suspect GWS will take Whitfield, Grundy and Toumpass with the first 3.
- Melbourne will pick O'Rourke at 4
- Dogs will take 2 of Mayes, Plowman and Menzel
- Port to take Menzel or Kennedy (assuming Mayes gone)
- Brisbane will be looking for an inside mid to replace Black. Guessing Wines but thinking he may drop. Gartlett, Kennedy possibles as is Vlastuin.
- Richmond - Yes I have heard the rumours re Vlastuin and agree he is a logical pick given leadership and contested play (Dimma would love him). Personally I think Wines is overhyped. I can see him slipping down given a lack of leg speed and questionable kicking. Given how high we rate kicking skills I just cant see us taking him if still avaliable. The smokey for our pick I think is Jackson Macrae. Neat left foot, clean, classy and with some pace. I like him more than any of Vlaustin, Wines or Kennedy. Gartlett I doubt we will pick.

Macrae to Richmond.........get it done FJ. 8-

GWS have the first 3 picks? Really?
 
ToraToraTora said:
GWS have the first 3 picks? Really?

I think the assumption is that GC and Melbourne will trade their first picks for the 2 mini draft picks

Giving GWS picks 1, 2 and 3
 
So if that scenario happens, not only is Melb stuffing up their own backyard by their behaviour over the last few years, but they are contributing to GWS building an empire that will mean it will be hard for anyother team (including themselves) to gaim that premiership.
 
Mr Magic said:
1. GWS have the first 3 picks after trading Mini draft picks to GC and Melb.
2. Viney will go in the 2nd round as a result
3. Daniher will go at pick 10. Possible that we will be calling his name during the F/S bid meeting to ensure they do.

The bidding for the father-sons is the first thing that happens in the trade period. The pick that melbourne will need to use for Viney will be locked in before any trading for the mini draft happens.
Imo this means that Melbourne will have used one of their earlier picks on Viney and will have to trade the other one if they want to get into the mini draft.
 
Sintiger said:
The bidding for the father-sons is the first thing that happens in the trade period. The pick that melbourne will need to use for Viney will be locked in before any trading for the mini draft happens.
Imo this means that Melbourne will have used one of their earlier picks on Viney and will have to trade the other one if they want to get into the mini draft.

Not if there is a hand shake agreement before the F/S bidding.

In relative terms it will mean Melb would end up getting Hogan for pick 20ish ;)
 
theox said:
Not if there is a hand shake agreement before the F/S bidding.

In relative terms it will mean Melb would end up getting Hogan for pick 20ish ;)
Sounds like draft manipulation to me.

Any of the 17 other clubs can make a bid for Viney, are they going to have a handshake agreement with all of them. Why wouldn't RFC bid for him? The worst that could happen is that we end up with Jack Viney for pick 9.
 
Sintiger said:
Sounds like draft manipulation to me.

Any of the 17 other clubs can make a bid for Viney, are they going to have a handshake agreement with all of them. Why wouldn't RFC bid for him? The worst that could happen is that we end up with Jack Viney for pick 9.

If we big pick 9 they only have to match with 26. Which is what they are happy to do.
 
Sintiger said:
Sounds like draft manipulation to me.

Any of the 17 other clubs can make a bid for Viney, are they going to have a handshake agreement with all of them. Why wouldn't RFC bid for him? The worst that could happen is that we end up with Jack Viney for pick 9.

The other clubs follow Melbourne's picks 3 & 4. So all it means is that Melbourne use their next pick after those clubs ie their 2nd round pick. We need GWS or GCS to nominate him prior to Melbourne's 1st pick.
 
Why the compo pick is excluded is beyond me. Melbourne has pick 13 in this draft, courtesy of the Scully compo. It has no magical properties other than how they acquired it, so I don't get why it is exempted from F/S bidding. If a club nominates Viney in the first 12 picks, Melbourne should have to use 13 to secure him. Makes no sense that they don't. Does anyone know why the AFL has deemed it this way, other than its general incompetence and ability to complicate simple matters?
 
spook said:
Why the compo pick is excluded is beyond me. Melbourne has pick 13 in this draft, courtesy of the Scully compo. It has no magical properties other than how they acquired it, so I don't get why it is exempted from F/S bidding. If a club nominates Viney in the first 12 picks, Melbourne should have to use 13 to secure him. Makes no sense that they don't. Does anyone know why the AFL has deemed it this way, other than its general incompetence and ability to complicate simple matters?

Exactly.
 
spook said:
Why the compo pick is excluded is beyond me. Melbourne has pick 13 in this draft, courtesy of the Scully compo. It has no magical properties other than how they acquired it, so I don't get why it is exempted from F/S bidding. If a club nominates Viney in the first 12 picks, Melbourne should have to use 13 to secure him. Makes no sense that they don't. Does anyone know why the AFL has deemed it this way, other than its general incompetence and ability to complicate simple matters?

It's only ever natural picks. That won't change.
 
Suppose it depends on whether GC and GWS believe that Viney is worth a top 2 pick s to whether they make a bid for him.

Don't believe any handshake agreement will be made between any of the clubs relating to Viney though.

Here's hoping that the Dees have to use their 1st rounder on him though...
 
spook said:
I know that's what it is. I'm questioning why.

Because it's the right thing to do. Compensation picks are a reward determined by the AFL and cannot be compromised.