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Ran a great race.

Missed the kick, then had nothing to take him into the race. But just kept coming. Very unlucky.
 
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The winner was 14's into 7's in a race matching $3.5 mill on BF. That is some sort of go.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Ran a great race.

Missed the kick, then had nothing to take him into the race. But just kept coming. Very unlucky.

Just saw the replay, it did miss the start but got in front of the winner with 200 to go. The winner was just a touch too strong.
 
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jb03 said:
Just saw the replay, it did miss the start but got in front of the winner with 200 to go. The winner was just a touch too strong.
Terrible out of the gates. Almost pinched it. Dissapointing.
 
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jb03 said:
The winner was 14's into 7's in a race matching $3.5 mill on BF. That is some sort of go.

Absolutely huge to happen so late in a race of that betting magnitude.

Some wont need to work again.

jb03 said:
Just saw the replay, it did miss the start but got in front of the winner with 200 to go. The winner was just a touch too strong.

Yeah it did. Arnold probably had to let him go a bit early to get him there. Your right though the winner was very strong on the line though.

How much would Black Caviar destory them by?
 
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BC would have absolutely murdered them. The commentators are saying it was a weak Kings Stand too. The WFA sprint race on the last day is usually a stronger race.

Can we bet against Frankel or is that senseless?
 
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Did you hear that leysy, the jockey on Goldikova weighed in two pounds over weight.
 
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jb03 said:
Can we bet against Frankel or is that senseless?

Senseless ILO.

jb03 said:
Did you hear that leysy, the jockey on Goldikova weighed in two pounds over weight.

Unbelievable. The commentators didnt hold back either.

What was it beat 3/4 length. That equates to about a kilo. In such a big worldside race as well. Bizarre.
 
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Gee not sure if that was the greatest ride on Frankel though apparently that is the way it is normally ridden.

Only won by 3/4 of a length.
 
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He took off at the 800 lol.

Still would have been rolled in another 30m.
 
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jb03 said:
Gee not sure if that was the greatest ride on Frankel though apparently that is the way it is normally ridden.

Only won by 3/4 of a length.

Never watched Frankel before, and he's obviously very good to warrant a ride that bordered on arrogant. But you'd want to see how he goes beyond a mile before backing him. They're raced so sparingly in Europe that punting would be very difficult, I reckon.

Big run Star Witness and wanted to lay out at times, but you couldn't take anything away from the winner.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Absolutely huge to happen so late in a race of that betting magnitude.

Some wont need to work again.

Yeah it did. Arnold probably had to let him go a bit early to get him there. Your right though the winner was very strong on the line though.

I've only seen the run once, but it was a phenomenal effort by Star Witness :thumbsup. Stevie was at him the whole way, as I suppose you have to be when you miss the start that badly over the shortcourse. Honestly, I expected Steve to miss the start and then experience piloting issues (despite being well drawn)... but that was only half correct.

The thing that just astounds me is how "soft hands" stevie is given the gig. The bloke should be notorious for being slow out of the gates, but escapes scrutiny due to his "beautiful" technique and balance. AND he won't take a gap. Terrified.

Star Witness is a notorious rogue, regularly doesn't rock up, or wins while *smile* around on pure talent. Soft Hands has ridden him only once previously, and he got beaten that day by Enjin Number Nine.

If they were desperate for a bloke that had ridden him, Nick Hall got him over the line despite his immaturity in his first 3 starts, culminating in G1 success in the Blue Diamond. Froggy has dealt with talented rogue juveniles before (Snitzel) and stood over them to get them at their best, the whip rules have hurt him, but he can't be accused of lacking vigour... If they were desperate for an Australian jockey who had won over there, Froggy had better credentials. Jay Ford struggles to get the plum rides at Wyong on Saturday, but Takeover Target pulled like a train and was hardly a sit and steer. If they wanted the best of the best, I'm sure Nash would've loved to take the ride. If they wanted the up and comer, I'm sure Ben Melham would've got the job done. If they wanted seniority and poise from a bloke who isn't over the hill, I think Mick Rodd's entitled to a call despite not being in the form of his breakout years in 06 and 07. This Arnold bloke should be way down the pecking order. Way, way down.

Star Witness is an entire, who has been guilty of just about every bad racing habit a horse can have. Green? Yep. Pulls? Yep. Bad barrier behaviour? Yep. Arnold risks his livelihood with injury more than any other senior jockey in the country, because he's 180cm. If he's on the sidelines, even slightly incapacitated, he is far less likely to get back into it than his colleagues. He's in his 30s, and has a family. You want your 10 million dollar rogue to become a $50 million dollar sprinting sensation? Put on a bloke who's got the fire and the talent. And if that bloke gets off and says "he was fractious in the gates, he cost himself the race", you'll know that it couldn't be avoided.

Leysy Days said:
How much would Black Caviar destory them by?

Leysy, I think the pertinent question is: "how many do we have down here who would've won the race?" And considering that Star Witness just got beat a neck after bombing the start, I think that there may be five or so here at home who would've *smile* in. Provided Arnold wasn't riding. ;D
 
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He He great stuff Gyps & a good wrap.

Excellent preview on TVN for Day 2 tonight ATM. Its also streamed on the Telstra website for those withour foxtel from memory.

John McCririck lol.

Great to look at coverage that is all about the horses rather than the fashion & celebrities like we have here.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
So You Think beaten. Hard to find a real excuse, but I'm glad Australian racing is different to theirs.
Went too early. Frankie D.
 
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Agree with Elmer Ryan Moore went too early.

Frankie rode his horse a treat.

Disappointing.
 
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Some good analysis post race showing the first 100 metres. They beat the third horse by a long way so no real excuse I guess. Don't know about these pacemaker tactics and having horses beaten 100 lengths in group ones.

Leysy Days said:
Agree with Elmer Ryan Moore went too early.
Possibly, but not by much.


LeeToRainesToRoach said:
, but I'm glad Australian racing is different to theirs.
Agree.
 
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Aidan O'Brien was just on and effectively blamed himself for not having the horse fit enough.
 
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jb03 said:
Some good analysis post race showing the first 100 metres. They beat the third horse by a long way so no real excuse I guess. Don't know about these pacemaker tactics and having horses beaten 100 lengths in group ones.

Was checked by the stable pacemaker. SYT would have been better off just leading without the "assistance" of any pacemaker.

On going early, these are very long straights & the horse is used to being let down a lot closer to the finish than he was here. Tested his stamina which was unfortunately is undoing.

Still they beat the 3rd horse by 6 lengths.