Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
jb03 said:
You guys are being a bit hard on the internationals.
They have regularly run places (or won) at big odds and All the Good just won the Caulfield Cup at 50-1.
In recent years:
2007 Purple Moon 2nd, Mahler 3rd
2006 Delta Blues 1st, Pop Rock 2nd (note Makybe Diva got its arse kicked in Japan)
2004 Vinnie Roe 2nd
2003 Jardine's Lookout 3rd
2002 Beekeeper 3rd
2001 Give The Slip 2nd, Persian Punch 3rd
1999 Central Park 2nd
1998 Persian Punch 3rd
So in fact, the opposite argument to leaving them out of your trifectas is true and you should at least include them all for at least the places.
Re The Cox Plate: Clearly the worst field in recent memory. Where are those discretianary powers the club has. I seem to remember them leaving out a Caulfield Cup winner once.
I can't see a deserved winner there, WFA ranks must be cactus if Sirmione is the headliner.
No probs with the internationals, jb. Just take the Japanese horses out. Then the record absolutely stinks. Let's be plain here- we're talking about the soft British rubbish.
So you might say that *Forgotten Name* just blitzed the CC. Well, fair enough. The CC is the softest mile and a half in the world. Is it not proven categorically that 2400m credentials are a huge disadvantage? The poms, and the Irish (and only in horseracing would I link those nations) are too soft for the Melbourne Cup, the hardest mile and a half in the world, usually.
But it's a shocking year. And for mine, the poms (and Irish - go on get angry) are suited this year. Lucky for them there are no Japanese horses, eh? Or they'd get the wasabi up the clacker. And still be too slow.
Okay, The Huss may have beaten four home last start but he was lucky. Gone for the prep and no surprise. He'll win next year's Cox Plate by two as he would have done this year if prepared for it. Rubiton.
So wassup in the Soff Cox Plate? Sirmione has a few things in favour. He's clearly the best ten furlong galloper in the country when right - see Aust Cup. Don't make too many excuses for the beaten Princess Coup (*smile* NZers can't pronounce her name - viz Starrrrrrrring). So he can't handle the turns? Rubbish. Axion #1219 - there are two types of horses, Caulfield horses and good horses. Sirmione is not a Caulfield horse. When Bart aint got a horse he's a spud. Because it's always about the horse. If you can train. So why do you suppose Sirmione went round in the Feehan. And how was the run? At his next run- What's that? A failure at Caulfield? Bart. Dirty sneak. And what did he say about the Cox Plate? "I'm really looking forward to it."
You know in Socrates' day, there were hundreds of rival philosophers. It's a privilege to have lived in Bart's era. Let's not confuse him with Tommy Smith (Phorgottenon). Or other insignificant philosophers.
Damien Oliver was
gone for many years after the most recent family death. Who can blame him for turning it up? And who hasn't noticed that he is in CBF? So here's the rider - he is the king of Moonee Valley. Could he have got another ride? Damn straight. Would you trade?
Fields of Omagh was a certainty the year King slaughtered him and was beaten by the historic mongrel Savabeel. FoO 14s. We all got plenty. But King was as soft as butter at the time and slaughtered his mount. Oliver is rock hard right now. So am I. Get some.
Princess Illiterate is the danger. If a country horse like Maldivian wins (third pick) kill yourself. Or hand me the gun and I'll do it for you. It's only right. Your life's not worth living.
The filly has to be considered. Shame the colt's not running. Maybe he's no good. If he is we can both shoot the trainer. Nuftibag. With persian rugs.
But I'm so confident about Sirmione that I'm prepared to use my jinxed PRE intro to the bet... Ahm tired from weeks of bustin' sods on this heeyar dirt farm. Ahm a reachin' under mah iron bed and Ahm takin' out that case, and a-openin' it. And Ahm dustin' off mah pearl handled six- guns.
And Ahm a stealin' a hoss and Ahm a-ridin' inta town.
Bang. Bang. Sirmione.
