The Official "RFC Coaching Position" Discussion Thread

[Ripplestick]

mere speculation at this point. Nothing to get worked up about.

Club keeping things close to their chest thus far... Caro and Hutchy aint got a sniff.

 

[Tiger_Shark]

Must say i'm leaning towards Richardson (Alan :hihi )

Hardwick next


Laidley ........ NO THANKS

 

[Smoking Aces]

Bulldogs and coach keen to finalise deal within days
Caroline Wilson | August 5, 2009

THE Western Bulldogs and coach Rodney Eade were hopeful of resolving their contractual differences within days despite apparent unease over the club’s offer.

While Eade is understood to have no issue with the length of his deal — he is believed to have been offered a two-year contract extension — some conjecture remains over the pay cut he has been asked to take by the club, which remains determined to keep its costs down as it continues to build a team capable of reaching a grand final.

The Bulldogs are understood to have asked Eade to take a pay cut as high as $100,000 before incentives although consecutive successful years would prove financially rewarding as well as earning a contract extension into 2012.

Richmond denied yesterday it had asked to interview Eade, who comes out of contract at the end of 2009, with the Tigers having made it clear to Eade’s management it would not interrupt its two-step recruitment process which is about to enter its second stage.
Western Bulldogs football boss James Fantasia would not discuss Eade’s contract negotiations yesterday but he stressed that both parties were determined to resolve the issue well before next month, when the club would be contesting the finals.

Fantasia and Eade’s management were expected to meet over the coming days to thrash out the issues and come to terms on a financial package.

Eade presented his coaching blueprint for 2010, 2011 and potentially beyond to the club several weeks ago and the Bulldogs’ board has approved a new contract offer to Eade, who took Sydney to a grand final in his first season as coach of the Swans and who is regarded as one of the game’s most astute tacticians.

There has been some mystery surrounding Eade’s position given the passing of the August 1 clause in his last contract that stipulated he be given an indication of his future, and also the board’s apparent determination to keep him.

Eade’s remuneration, or at least his base package, appears to be an issue. But both parties appear determined to resolve it before the club’s finals campaign.

Club president David Smorgon has repeatedly refused to comment upon Eade’s contract.

■ Richmond and North Melbourne continued their search for new coaches. Both clubs appear to be moving towards consolidating short lists with the Tigers hoping to make a decision well before the end of the home-and-away season.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/bulldogs-and-coach-keen-to-finalise-deal-within-days/2009/08/04/1249350550735.html

 

[BrisTiger24]

Article on the AFL site saying that Adrian Fletcher wants the Richmond senior gig. Apparently we are top of his list and he's "put in" for the Richmond role.

Anyone got the heart to tell him he didn't get an interview??

 

[TigerForce]

Article on the AFL site saying that Adrian Fletcher wants the Richmond senior gig. Apparently we are top of his list and he's "put in" for the Richmond role.

Anyone got the heart to tell him he didn't get an interview??

Should be in the Game for a laugh thread.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

I’d be alright with Cameron, in fact I’d be ok with anyone on the short list provided the club goes through the legendary ‘process’.

The only thing I’d be crabby with if they short cutted and hired Rawilings straight away. But I’d be fine with Rawlings if they go through the full testing and he’s the best candidate.

 

[IanG]

Article on the AFL site saying that Adrian Fletcher wants the Richmond senior gig. Apparently we are top of his list and he's "put in" for the Richmond role.

Anyone got the heart to tell him he didn't get an interview??

Fletcher does have a fairly good rep as an assistant coach, the article is obviously stupidly out of date.

I’d be alright with Cameron, in fact I’d be ok with anyone on the short list provided the club goes through the legendary ‘process’.

The only thing I’d be crabby with if they short cutted and hired Rawilings straight away. But I’d be fine with Rawlings if they go through the full testing and he’s the best candidate.

I wouldn't, not any more. I don't think he's good enough not when you look at who we have the pick of.

 

[Smoking Aces]

I wouldn't, not any more. I don't think he's good enough not when you look at who we have the pick of.

I assume you are referring to Rawlings?

I would be very happy if we got Cameron.

 

[IanG]

I assume you are referring to Rawlings?

I would be very happy if we got Cameron.

Yep I was talking about Rawlings. I'd be happy with Cameron.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

I wouldn't, not any more. I don't think he's good enough not when you look at who we have the pick of.

Why do you say that? I’ve been quietly impressed with how the team style has been evolving and some of the personal decisions.

Given the choice between two good candidates as a tie breaker always go for someone you know is good rather than someone you are guessing about.

 

[IanG]

Why do you say that? I’ve been quietly impressed with how the team style has been evolving and some of the personal decisions.

The Melbourne match was deplorable and his tactical nous is not as good as others IMHO.

 

[Smoking Aces]

The Melbourne match was deplorable and his tactical nous is not as good as others IMHO.

Agree. On the other hand, I would suspect Cameron would be quite the opposite. No doubt he has learnt quite a fair bit under the guidance of Eade.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

The Melbourne match was deplorable and his tactical nous is not as good as others IMHO.

I don’t think you should judge any coach on one match, and even on Sunday then were a couple of nice signs underneath what was superficially a lacklustre match .

I’m not he can be judged tactically just yet anyway because he’s putting players in positions for development rather than necessarily to win the game. Some of the moves he has tried, like using King as a midfield tagger, have been quite successful.

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

I don’t think you should judge any coach on one match

How about the 7-goal lead we forfeited to the Roos? Or the goalless hour against the Saints?

 

[IanG]

I don’t think you should judge any coach on one match, and even on Sunday then were a couple of nice signs underneath what was superficially a lacklustre match .

Its not just the 1 match, that match was the straw that broke the camels back for me.

 

[Tiger74]

For either Richardson or Rawlings I would want a coach/mentor next to him to support the development of tactics. Laidley would be ideal for this (IMO), and Cameron wouldn't be bad either (given the feedback to date).

 

[Ty Esler]

Rawlings is doing a pretty good job for mine

1) he has been playing the kids, or at least all of the kids who are even close to senior standard. Post and Vickory have been given roles where they have a chance to develop

2) A number of players are playing with more confidence - Bling, Titch, Thursty

3) He is not afraid to drop guys who play unaccountable football - Tuck

They didn't play well Sunday, but generally the effort has been good. We are one of many teams that St Kilda has made look bad this year.

If the club finds someone else who blows them away in the interview process then go for it, but Jade deserves credit for what he's done out of the chaos of Wallace's departure. Would you prefer Darren Crocker?

 

[IanG]

If the club finds someone else who blows them away in the interview process then go for it, but Jade deserves credit for what he's done out of the chaos of Wallace's departure. Would you prefer Darren Crocker?

I want to retain Rawlings as a Senior Assistant Coach just not the Senior Coach.

For either Richardson or Rawlings I would want a coach/mentor next to him to support the development of tactics. Laidley would be ideal for this (IMO), and Cameron wouldn't be bad either (given the feedback to date).

Cameron would only come across for the senior position. But you raise an interesting point, maybe an area where we can innovate is to have an Assistant Coach responsible for Tactical Development

 

[gustiger12]

To me the true value of what Rawlings has done in his time as Senior Coach won't be known for sometime.

However the interview panel should have a fair insight on what he would do come years end based on what he has seen. ie who would be gone, who would he trade, where are our deficiencies etc.

This is where the process should seperate the contenders from the pretenders.

What Jade has done has been good, he has made hard decisions, he has played kids, he has tinkered with the game plan, he has emphasized the defensive side of the game, all good, but nothing most prospective coaches couldn't have done.

On the other hand though, even the most outstand prospective coaches couldn't have really done a lot better, simply because they would be stuck with the same cattles, with the same injury list, with the same deficiencies, the same floors, the same skill level and the same support staff.

Its where each candidate would go from here and how they would go about it which will hopefully reveal who is actually the right person to take the tigers forward.

We all talk about poor performances against St.Kilda, North and Melbourne, but truth is most of the prospectives probably wouldn't have done much better, but at least Jade has given himself and the others a look at what lies ahead, who has the potential to take us forward and who are just list cloggers, and who are plain dead in the water.

Lets wait and see how all the prospectives interpret this and how they see they way forward evolving. Thats where the answers lie. Not in what Jade has or hasn't done over the last few weeks. Its not about the past, but the future.

Jade has certainly done a few of the other prospective candidates a favour by giving them a look at guys like Post, Vickery, Nahas, Hislop and co, how they deal with it is up to them

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

But you raise an interesting point, maybe an area where we can innovate is to have an Assistant Coach responsible for Tactical Development

Is this what Wayne Brittain did during the Fraudley days?