The First 12

[Rfc4Ever]

Someone mentioned DeGoey earlier.

Could be a very good pick-up however he isn't known for big possession games and needs to build on his fitness base.

I would prefer a proven accumulator at our first pick.

Ahern has shown he can get the ball.

His ability to play up forward and through the midfield is a plus and he could well be the next Sidebottom when he builds his tank.

And it is looking like Laverde and Weller will be gone by the time our pick is gone.

I think if Duggan gets picked up before 12 it will be a blessing in disguise for us.

Don't want Langford at #12.

Weller would be a great get.

 

[Stylo]

Someone mentioned DeGoey earlier.

Could be a very good pick-up however he isn't known for big possession games and needs to build on his fitness base.

I would prefer a proven accumulator at our first pick.

Ahern has shown he can get the ball.

His ability to play up forward and through the midfield is a plus and he could well be the next Sidebottom when he builds his tank.

And it is looking like Laverde and Weller will be gone by the time our pick is gone.

I think if Duggan gets picked up before 12 it will be a blessing in disguise for us.

Don't want Langford at #12.

Weller would be a great get.

Weller would be my number 1 preference but no way he gets to 12 IMO. Reckon you're under rating Duggan a bit. Many do for some reason. For mine he's one of the top 5 mids in this pool.

 

[Rfc4Ever]

Weller would be my number 1 preference but no way he gets to 12 IMO. Reckon you're under rating Duggan a bit. Many do for some reason. For mine he's one of the top 5 mids in this pool.

One of the biggest knocks on Duggan is that he has easily been tagged out of games.

Plays better off the HBF a loose defender/playmaker.

His play reminds me of Matty Jaensch from the Crows, however Duggan has shown he can play as a mid and accumulate.

Wouldn't be upset if we pick him, I'm just hoping for others to slide who I would prefer more.

 

[Stylo]

One of the biggest knocks on Duggan is that he has easily been tagged out of games.

Plays better off the HBF a loose defender/playmaker.

His play reminds me of Matty Jaensch from the Crows, however Duggan has shown he can play as a mid and accumulate.

Wouldn't be upset if we pick him, I'm just hoping for others to slide who I would prefer more.

Plenty of juniors suffer that disease though, especially the skinnier ones. Just watching him play, he's silk, and his contested game is nothing to be sneezed at. Keep in mind he's a bottom ager as well. He kicks goals, runs hard, tackles hard, puts in second and third efforts, creates play, marks strongly, hits targets long distance on both legs (right less penetrating), and more often than not makes the right decision under pressure. I can honestly see him developing into a Heppell type, maybe not quite as good, but a similar type. He's certainly not your typical one dimensional left footed back flanker, he's been tarred by the wrong brush IMO. I wonder what people would be saying about him if he were right footed :hihi

 

[bullus_hit]

Plenty of juniors suffer that disease though, especially the skinnier ones. Just watching him play, he's silk, and his contested game is nothing to be sneezed at. Keep in mind he's a bottom ager as well. He kicks goals, runs hard, tackles hard, puts in second and third efforts, creates play, marks strongly, hits targets long distance on both legs (right less penetrating), and more often than not makes the right decision under pressure. I can honestly see him developing into a Heppell type, maybe not quite as good, but a similar type. He's certainly not your typical one dimensional left footed back flanker, he's been tarred by the wrong brush IMO. I wonder what people would be saying about him if he were right footed :hihi

Not so sure he'll be a Heppell, lacks the agility and speed. I wouldn't write off his midfield ability completely but there's a lot of work to be done. If he lands at Richmond expect him to serve a lengthy apprenticeship in the back line.

 

[Stylo]

Not so sure he'll be a Heppell, lacks the agility and speed. I wouldn't write off his midfield ability completely but there's a lot of work to be done. If he lands at Richmond expect him to serve a lengthy apprenticeship in the back line.

There's really not that much to be done. A bit more strength in the body maybe, but his smarts and skill set would have him ready to play on a wing at some point in the next year or two IMO. Heppell isn't astonishingly fast or agile either, he gets by on skills and smarts primarily, same as Duggan would. Anyway pretty clear we have slightly different views on this BH, agree to disagree? Out of interest, what's your ranking of preferences for 12 atm?

 

[bullus_hit]

There's really not that much to be done. A bit more strength in the body maybe, but his smarts and skill set would have him ready to play on a wing at some point in the next year or two IMO. Heppell isn't astonishingly fast or agile either, he gets by on skills and smarts primarily, same as Duggan would. Anyway pretty clear we have slightly different views on this BH, agree to disagree? Out of interest, what's your ranking of preferences for 12 atm?

Laverde
Weller
Pickett
Ahern
Durdin
Duggan
De Goey

 

[Stylo]

Laverde
Weller
Pickett
Ahern
Durdin
Duggan
De Goey

Similar to mine but I don't even include Weller, Laverde or Pickett these days. Durdin being a possibility is exciting. I'd go Durdin, Duggan, Ahern, Cockatoo, De Goey.

 

[Scoop]

Im not sure I could ignore Durdin if he was on the board.

 

[T-Shirt Tommy]

Im not sure I could ignore Durdin if he was on the board.

Even with our lack of midfield depth?

 

[bullus_hit]

Im not sure I could ignore Durdin if he was on the board.

Ahern vs Durdin is an interesting dilemma, needs vs potentially best available. Tough choice.

 

[Giardiasis]

Easy choice: best available.

 

[GEDS1]

for me it is:

Durdin
.
.
.
Ahern
closely followed by Duggan
Blakely
Bontempelli Mk11
Cockatoo

 

[bullus_hit]

for me it is:

Durdin
.
.
.
Ahern
closely followed by Duggan
Blakely
Bontempelli Mk11
Cockatoo

Bontempelli MkII is Langford?

 

[Stylo]

Even with our lack of midfield depth?

Durdin will be a star IMO. Doubt he'll make it to our pick though tbh. Might be the reason Geelong traded up

 

[bullus_hit]

Durdin will be a star IMO. Doubt he'll make it to our pick though tbh. Might be the reason Geelong traded up

Reckon they want Pickett but might be wrong. Durdin would be a good get though, I have a feeling we would pounce.

 

[GEDS1]

Bontempelli MkII is Langford?

Correct !

 

[Scoop]

Even with our lack of midfield depth?

That's what I mean, its a tough call. I really think Durdiun is a star in the making. Haven't mentioned him because I didn't see a way he drops to 12. But if he was on the board, I'd have to call his name. He's the swingman of swingmen. It's Jarrad Roughead again.

If Pickett, Weller and Durdin were on the board, I'd be playing paper scissors rock.

 

[Rfc4Ever]

Anyone else think that the documentaries on the site that cannot be named will be putting a heap of pressure on Petracca?

 

[bullus_hit]

Anyone else think that the documentaries on the site that cannot be named will be putting a heap of pressure on Petracca?

Not so much the video but St Kilda refusing to accept picks 4 & 7 will place enormous pressure on the lad. Personally I would have made the trade, McCartin / Wright + Laverde / Weller seems to be more bang for the buck. Petracca is good but is he that much better than say David Swallow? Scully? Whitfield? History has shown that 2 picks in the top 7 are generally superior to pick 1, I wonder if this will be Pelican's lasting legacy.

2013
Tom Boyd vs Bontempelli, Aish

2012
Whitfield vs Toumpas, Wines

2011
Patton vs Hoskin-Elliott, Nick Haynes

2010
Swallow vs Gaff, Caddy

2009
Scully vs Morabito, Sheppard

2008
Watts vs Hartlett, Rich

2007
Kreuzer vs Morton, Palmer

2006
Gibbs vs Leuenberger, Selwood

2005
Murphy vs Kennedy, Ryder

2004
Deledio vs Tambling, Lewis

From this scenario it would appear that picks 4 & 7 would at least break even, more often than not trumping the output of a pick 1. Petracca is good but is he worth two players? I have my doubts, history has been pretty clear where this has been concerned.