Stylo said:
yep. pretty sure you are right.
im not against drafting Cockatoo but just wonder how much those who are pushing for him actually know about him.
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yep. pretty sure you are right.
im not against drafting Cockatoo but just wonder how much those who are pushing for him actually know about him.
Brodders17 said:
There's a pretty balanced profile on him here - http://boundforglorynews.com/2014-draft-profile-nakia-cockatoo/
Still reads pretty well, but points out his lack of exposed form, occasional lack of composure, tendency to do too much, and lack of any real specialized talent; he's a bit of a 'jack of all trades'. I'd really like him at the club but not for our first pick. Too risky. 23 would have been perfect :'(
Thought you couldn't put an old head on young shoulders, has someone finally invented a frankencocka?GEDS1 said:
Mr Magic said:
Is he an inside mid or more a hbf?
Liam Duggan (Western Jets)
Height: 183 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Position: Half-back
Strengths: Disposal, speed, penetrating kick
Areas of improvement: Inside game, composure
Player comparison: Matt Suckling
Liam Duggan is one of the most talented players in the TAC Cup but is hardly mentioned outside the Under 18s competition given all the focus on the talls of this year’s draft crop. He is the Western Jets’ key play maker who is not only used, but relied upon to provide crucial drive off the half-back flank. In doing so, he willingly helps provide run-and-carry for his side and would gain plenty of meterage like a Heath Shaw.
It would be remiss to just characterise Duggan as a running half back. He has a disguised weapon that comes in the form of his left boot, something that is rare for many players. He is the type that can not only run, but boot the ball over 60 metres and hit a target. Without meaning to get too stuck into cliche’s, he’s shoot the wings off a fly such is his accuracy.
Duggan’s man area for improvement would be his inside game because without needing to look at statistics, plenty of his disposals would be handball receives or intercept marks. This isn’t to say he avoids contests, but no doubt he prefers receiving the ball and sprinting away from packs to hit targets up forward. This strength along with his penetrating kick is the reason he has drawn comparisons to Matt Suckling.
Very few were surprised when the rebounding defender was selected in the AIS Academy squad and he has further enhanced his credentials with impressive performances this season. In a wet and soggy affair at Dandenong, Duggan had 33 disposals, 11 handball receives, five marks, six tackles and a goal. This performance indicated he was becoming a more rounded player and someone who could drift forward and kick goals when his team needed him.
The Western Jets must see Duggan as a barometer because unsurprisingly, when he plays well the team wins. In the Jets’ wins this season where Duggan has played, he has averaged 29.5 disposals. In their losses, he contributed an average of just 14.5 disposals. No doubt the opposition would be looking to shut down Duggan as a person of interest because of the run and disposal he provides – a deadly combination that would give any opposition coach headaches.
Another key reason to lock down Duggan is he can occasionally rush his disposal when pressure is inferred. While he is a beautiful kick of the football when given time and space, if he is kept under wraps, he can often kick short or pick the first option he sees. This shows either a lack of composure or a directive to gain meterage rather than cause a stoppage. Whatever the reason, Duggan is more effective when left alone to his own devices. Unfortunately it won’t take AFL clubs and opposition players to work out what it takes to stop him so it’s something he’ll need to work on.
Liam Duggan is a rebounding defender who loves the time and space of the open wing. He is a playmaker and instruments passages from half back to half forward, usually by carrying the ball 20 metres before booting it 60 metres. While he has some deficiencies in his game, sides like the Western Bulldogs, GWS or Carlton could use his disposal off the half back flank and while there is still plenty of months till the National Draft, expect Liam Duggan’s name to be called sooner rather than later.
Link http://boundforglorynews.com/2014-player-profile-liam-duggan/
Stylo said:
I was going to ask about De Goooeeeeeeey. has he not been mentioned much on here cos he isnt worth pick 12 but will well and truly go before our 2nd pick? or is just that we dont need his type? perhaps similar to Vlaustin?
he sounds good to me.
Duggan is a midfielder as much as Lennon was a midfielder in his draft year, he may get there (possibly wingman) but by no means will he just front up next year and join the rotations. The things conspiring against his midfield aspirations will be his speed & agility, he finished bottom 20% for the sprints & bottom 10% for agility, these are very similar stats to Lennon last year. Duggan is a footballer first & foremost, he's not the type who will bedazzle with raw athleticism and seems likely to be used primarily for his superb long kicking game.
The poor sprint results are surprising as almost every draft profile talks about his speed. Maybe he takes a while to wind up to top pace.
I prefer others to Duggan. Nice player, Kade Simpson a good comparison, but he's a bit behind the top 10 or so.
With it so even after that, am I the only one who wouldn't be unhappy with Garlett at 12? If you'd swap 12 for Bradley Hill, or use it on Pickett, you'd have to consider using it on Garlett I reckon. He impressed me as much as anyone in the two Champs games I saw him play. More so than Pickett. Or Duggan. Or Weller or Heeney come to that.
With it so even after that, am I the only one who wouldn't be unhappy with Garlett at 12? If you'd swap 12 for Bradley Hill, or use it on Pickett, you'd have to consider using it on Garlett I reckon. He impressed me as much as anyone in the two Champs games I saw him play. More so than Pickett. Or Duggan. Or Weller or Heeney come to that.
spook said:
Don't think that we would be getting Garlett with pick 12 spook, judging by Dan Richardsons comments on the RFC website. For those that missed it, he stated that we would be getting an inside mid with our first pick and then concentrate on speed with the latter picks.
With this info in mind, who are we likely to target with our first if this is indeed the case?
Look I am not an expert but his skills seems to be a little off for my liking but i like that he looks strong and gets involved. I do believe he lacked confidence early days and has gained some this year so he is not a big believer in himself - maybe a bit of the Griffs about him. Top prospect at 33 and 23 if we had of got it.
SCOOP said:
I found Touk Miller interesting and unusual.
On grand final day, I believe he could have done more.
But, I also reflect on existing AFL players, such as Cyril Rioli and Nat Fyfe, who probably could have shown more in their junior exhibition games but went on to do so in their AFL careers.
I thought he said well-rounded player. One of the inside mids like Blakely, Gore or Neal-Bullen should be there at 33 and if not, Touk Miller will be. And if not, there's always Billy Evans with 52. I rate Garlett higher than any of those.T-Shirt Tommy said:
SCOOP said:
Whilst I'm all for Garlett with our 2nd I don't think we will reach with our 1st. For mine I think it will be out of Duggan, De Goey & Blakely (presuming Ahern, Pickett, Laverde & Weller are off the board). It's been stated numerous times that we will be seeking an inside mid, that may even rule out Duggan if one wants to get technical. We will be chasing speed with our second so Menadue, Garlett, Cockatoo & McKenzie will all be in the frame.
GEDS1 said:
De Goey has a bit of Luke Parker about him, he also tested fairly well so athletically he seems a likely candidate. Don't mind his selection at 12 if the others are off the board, he seems a 'safe' bet very much in the FJ tradition.
