Tennis

[Harry]

like football crowds , we'd cheer like hell if Danger missed a goal , plenty will boo the opposition when they first run out on the ground thats barracking for footy

tennis hasn't grown up with that

This ain't football. Similar to golf, a different crowd etiquette is expected.

 

[mrposhman]

The double fault cheer that got under Medvedev's skin was, if I am right, when it gave Rafa the break. I reckon people were cheering the break of serve rather than the double faults.

Not everything is about poor Daniil Boy

Thats the exact one. He started clapping his racquet and waving at the crowd. They were celebrating the break of serve as you say, not the double fault. The cheering was about Rafa, not Medvedev.

 

[MD Jazz]

Not quite sure what Medvedev did to deserve so much hatred.

Against Kyrgios he rightly pointed out the low IQ of the crowd who booed and shouted during serves.
He rightly went off at the chair umpire for not giving Tsitsipas a coaching violation (which the umpire later did and it's well known that his dad coaches during games).
Sure the crowd was for Nadal but the over the top celebrating after double faults and unforced errors is bad sportsmanship by the crowd.
The crowd behaviour overall was poor - Medvedev wasn't the only player to complain.

Agree Harry, I like him. The crowd were wankers and he called them on it. Tennis crowds often are full of dickheads.

Lleyton Hewitt did it when he was about 16, said the crowd were stupid or something like that and he was hated for a while.

I'm a Medvedev fan now.

 

[mrposhman]

Agree Harry, I like him. The crowd were wankers and he called them on it. Tennis crowds often are full of dickheads.

Lleyton Hewitt did it when he was about 16, said the crowd were stupid or something like that and he was hated for a while.

I'm a Medvedev fan now.

Did you think the crowd was anti-Medvedev or pro-Rafa? There is a difference

 

[MD Jazz]

Did you think the crowd was anti-Medvedev or pro-Rafa? There is a difference

Both.

Yeh he has developed a bit of a chip now but he has reason for it.

I like the way he plays and like the fact he isn't afraid to call out idiotic behaviour.

I'm sure he will play in the majors obviously smarting from an epic match. He'll be better for the experience.

 

[ceehook2]

I've played full sledge golf weekend , caught me by surprise, sledging before during and after your swing , it took special levels of concentration , you know what you are in for after the first hole LOL

one year Wimbelton had big weather problems and they opened the gates for the reschedulled final day , too hard to sell tickets or something,
big crowd in and they cheered like a football game , oh didn't the establishment poo poo it

yeah it isn't traditional and can fully understand the players gripe

the question will be thou will it bring new people to see it live and to watch on TV ?
and if that is the case do they want to trade out the tradition for the $$$'s

maybe its best reserved for Davis Cup , just quite while serving

 

[mrposhman]

Both.

Yeh he has developed a bit of a chip now but he has reason for it.

I like the way he plays and like the fact he isn't afraid to call out idiotic behaviour.

I'm sure he will play in the majors obviously smarting from an epic match. He'll be better for the experience.

Personally I didn't see too much wrong with the crowd. Sure there were a few numpties there that would call out in between serves, and the umpire tried to control that, but Medvedev let so much of it get to him, that I'm sure it contributed to the loss as impacted his focus.

He seems annoyed that the crowd wasn't supporting him, yet was playing Rafa. If he went into that final assuming the crowd would be pro him rather than Rafa then he needs his head seen to. Add to that, that crowds in finals want the game to go on as long as possible, once it seemed clear that Rafa was on the come back trail in the 3rd, then the crowd got even further behind him. It happens all the time.

I defo get the noises between serves etc, thats not on, but if he thinks people aren't going to celebrate a point for Rafa to win a game or get to a break point etc regardless of whether it was a great shot from Rafa or an unforced error by himself, then again he doesn't understand crowds. They will celebrate both when it is key.

Medvedev is a very good player and will win tournaments but now is the time to decide if he wants to be a crowd favourite (like Rafa / Federer etc) or if he just wants to be respected but not loved like the Joker. His speech on the court was very good, and IMO that was him talking from his heart. Someone in his camp is winding him up about it all, hence the press conference where he came out like a child about school crying to the teacher that the other kids were being mean to him. He needs to grow up and get the mental strength he needs to win a grand slam, if he does that, we will win A LOT of them, he has everything going for him, a terrific serve is a massive weapon, his backhand is dangerous and his net play is very good too. Those jumping backhands are really something to behold though, they are majestic, so strong and so powerful.

 

[Baloo]

Crowd in the womens final would have been more partisan than the mens final, but Collins concentrated on her game and I reckon everyone in the crowd gained a lot of respect for her because of it. This time next year I reckon she'll be one of the international stars that will have the crowd in at AO behind her, unless she's playing an Aussie of course.

Medvedev on the other hand, the crowd will be waiting for him to react and then they'll let him have it. His own doing.

 

[Legends of 2017]

Not quite sure what Medvedev did to deserve so much hatred.

Spells his first name wrong for starters

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Not quite sure what Medvedev did to deserve so much hatred.

He has the knack of rubbing crowds up the wrong way. It’s not just here. Up until now he seems to have enjoyed being the villain. He used it to fire himself up.

 

[tigerman]

Medvedev was his own worst enemy.

Having said that, when when he played Kyrgios the crowd were disgraceful to him, and were an embarrassment. He needs to be better than letting crap like that bother him.

 

[Smoking Aces]

People forget Medvedev has form. It’s not the first time he has acted this way on a tennis court - both here in Australia and overseas.

He stooped to a new low last night by having a crack at the ball kids. Seriously.

And he wonders why the crowd aren’t on his side.

 

[Smoking Aces]

This ain't football. Similar to golf, a different crowd etiquette is expected.

Same applies then to the players.

 

[eZyT]

People forget Medvedev has form. It’s not the first time he has acted this way on a tennis court - both here in Australia and overseas.

He stooped to a new low last night by having a crack at the ball kids. Seriously.

And he wonders why the crowd aren’t on his side.

When you get your eye in,

Narcissists stand out like dogs balls.

Gifted gross motor skills. Incredible athleticism. Yeah, maybe good at chess and maths.

But clearly a narcissist.

It was there for all to see in those piggy eyes, petulantly screaming repeatedly at the umpire like a *smile* of a 5 year old, in the semi-final.

'Combative' 'letting out tension' 'cerebral'

Yeah right.

Try c *smile* t

charming speech? thats how narcissists roll

Pretty telling theres 1 bloke in his box in a slam final, and he's rocking some pretty piggy peepers as well, and thinks a mask is to cover the neck.

Move over Novax, theres a new *smile* in town

 

[Sintiger]

Heard an interview with Ben Crowe by Virginia Trioli this morning. I knew he had a big role in the mental side of Ash Barty’s game but what I didn’t understand until now was the role Cotch played in introducing the two of them.

When you listen to her talk about her mindset it is straight out of the Tiger 2017 playbook

 

[eZyT]

Heard an interview with Ben Crowe by Virginia Trioli this morning. I knew he had a big role in the mental side of Ash Barty’s game but what I didn’t understand until now was the role Cotch played in introducing the two of them.

When you listen to her talk about her mindset it is straight out of the Tiger 2017 playbook

Ben Crowe has THE easiest and best job in world.

He whispers 'you are a human being, not a human doing' (or is it the other way round?)

into star sportspeople's ears,

and when they win stuff,

everyone says he is amazing and they love him.

The truth is, he is amazing. and they love him.

Its not easy to believe the simplest thing ever invented, let alone make other people believe it.

But another truth is,

we will never hear the failed Irish dancer say

'I paid Ben Crowe about 2 grand, and I still have no rhythm'

 

[Tigers of Old]

we will never hear the failed Irish dancer say

'I paid Ben Crowe about 2 grand, and I still have no rhythm'

It's true. eg Emma Murray worked at St Kilda FC for a while with no success.
Their out is though that she says you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.
Does require a full buy in from the athlete..& as you rightly point out ezy, a lot of talent helps too.

 

[mrposhman]

When you get your eye in,

Narcissists stand out like dogs balls.

Gifted gross motor skills. Incredible athleticism. Yeah, maybe good at chess and maths.

But clearly a narcissist.

It was there for all to see in those piggy eyes, petulantly screaming repeatedly at the umpire like a *smile* of a 5 year old, in the semi-final.

'Combative' 'letting out tension' 'cerebral'

Yeah right.

Try c *smile* t

charming speech? thats how narcissists roll

Pretty telling theres 1 bloke in his box in a slam final, and he's rocking some pretty piggy peepers as well, and thinks a mask is to cover the neck.

Move over Novax, theres a new *smile* in town

Jim Courier said it right last night when he was talking about Medvedev manipulating the umpire which was spot on IMO.

When he was yelling at the umpire to "do something, take control" the umpire was looking at him, like, "what do you mean? They are cheering for Rafa not doing something wrong"

 

[eZyT]

It's true. eg Emma Murray worked at St Kilda FC for a while with no success.
Their out is though that she says you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.
Does require a full but in from the athlete..& as you rightly point out ezy, a lot of talent helps too.

He was on The Drum tonight and said dont make

to do - lists,

But rather make

To be - lists.

So tomorrow ive canned shopping, haircut, fixing the alternator on tractor, fix shower tap washer, cook dinner

And going with be resupplied, be shorn, be good at fixing the tractor alternator, be dirty, be hungry.

Ill let you know how it goes

 

[eZyT]

Jim Courier said it right last night when he was talking about Medvedev manipulating the umpire which was spot on IMO.

When he was yelling at the umpire to "do something, take control" the umpire was looking at him, like, "what do you mean? They are cheering for Rafa not doing something wrong"

Yes.

He was essentially saying to the umpire

'Make them like me'

In the manner a messed up kid might say to their kindergarten teacher.

He tried to manipulate the ball kids to do things how he wanted it done, rather than, as the umpire perfectly expkained, the way theyve been instructed to do their job.

That he picked a pointless, unpopular, fight he couldnt win

At 2-0 up,

Was instructive in how much perspective and emotional intelligence he possesses