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Tambling (merged)
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Re: Tambling [Merged]
I doubt that very much. We had Richo and didn't get anywhere near where the Hawks are now. Disappoints me to say but there's a possibility Lance wouldn't have developed into the player he is now had be been drafted to Tigerland during such a bad period.
Circa1982 said:
I doubt that very much. We had Richo and didn't get anywhere near where the Hawks are now. Disappoints me to say but there's a possibility Lance wouldn't have developed into the player he is now had be been drafted to Tigerland during such a bad period.
Bennnny
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Re: Tambling [Merged]
Possibly, but wasn't it stated that the Crows picked him up (Tambling) because they reckon we had terrible player development and they could fix him? Certainly didn't turn out that well for them. Easy to blame the club for lack of development, but the player has to want to make it. Not sure Tambling had that desire.
rosy23 said:
Possibly, but wasn't it stated that the Crows picked him up (Tambling) because they reckon we had terrible player development and they could fix him? Certainly didn't turn out that well for them. Easy to blame the club for lack of development, but the player has to want to make it. Not sure Tambling had that desire.
Re: Tambling [Merged]
I wasn't blaming the club for Tambling. He had a distinct lack of heart and a poor attitude. Fact is we did have an era of poverty, poor staffing, player support, ordinary coaching, poor list, pathetic facilities etc that weren't conducive to getting the best out of a player. Lance is rumoured to have needed strong guidance early on. Of course the player needs to have the desire and the ability to get the best out of themselves as well. Are you confident Lance would have been equally as good if we'd drafted him as he has been at Hawthorn? I wouldn't have a clue but it's not unreasonable, considering our circumstances at the time, to at least wonder. I don't question Richo's attitude or will to succeed in the slightest, I wish every player had it, but I also wonder what he could have been if he was playing when we were in better shape as a club.
Tiger Rob said:
I wasn't blaming the club for Tambling. He had a distinct lack of heart and a poor attitude. Fact is we did have an era of poverty, poor staffing, player support, ordinary coaching, poor list, pathetic facilities etc that weren't conducive to getting the best out of a player. Lance is rumoured to have needed strong guidance early on. Of course the player needs to have the desire and the ability to get the best out of themselves as well. Are you confident Lance would have been equally as good if we'd drafted him as he has been at Hawthorn? I wouldn't have a clue but it's not unreasonable, considering our circumstances at the time, to at least wonder. I don't question Richo's attitude or will to succeed in the slightest, I wish every player had it, but I also wonder what he could have been if he was playing when we were in better shape as a club.
Ghost of Punt Road
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Re: Tambling [Merged]
I think we got Todd Elton, Brad Helbig (pick 47), and will get another pick this year for him (the pick right after Ports second selection).
Dean Macdonald we took with a normal third draft pick, not the one from Adelaide (I'm 90% on this)
Tigertool said:
I think we got Todd Elton, Brad Helbig (pick 47), and will get another pick this year for him (the pick right after Ports second selection).
Dean Macdonald we took with a normal third draft pick, not the one from Adelaide (I'm 90% on this)
Re: Tambling [Merged]
Probably worded my response poorly. Wasn't meaning to imply you were blaming the club, was trying to point out that the player needs to want it.
And I'd tend to agree that we may not have handled Buddy too well. We probably admitted as much by not drafting him - it was well known he was rumoured to have issues and by not drafting him we probably indicated our inability to deal with it.
rosy23 said:
Probably worded my response poorly. Wasn't meaning to imply you were blaming the club, was trying to point out that the player needs to want it.
And I'd tend to agree that we may not have handled Buddy too well. We probably admitted as much by not drafting him - it was well known he was rumoured to have issues and by not drafting him we probably indicated our inability to deal with it.
Re: Tambling [Merged]
Not quite right Ghost.
The actual trade for Tambling
We got Adelaide's late 1st round (Bock compo pick) and their 3rd round pick (pick 50)
Pick 50 became pick 51. Which we used on McDonald
(Draft order moved down because WCE got Darling (p26) as an end of 1st rd priority pick and North Melbourne got Kieran Harper p27)
**GC didn't pick after rd 1.**
We swapped the (Bock) compo pick to GC for pick 26 (Elton) and what previously was Ports (Nathan Krakouer) compo pick that was traded back to GC (we've activated for this years draft)
Pick 47 (Helbig) was always ours. We tried to trade that with Essendon for Houli, but they wanted more, Houli went into the psd, we used that on Helbig
* wiki says we got 47 in the Tambling trade, but that's incorrect. You just have to go to 2nd rd-pick 30 Batchelor, (add 17) 3rd rd-47 Helbig 4th rd-63 Derryx
Ghost of Punt Road said:
Not quite right Ghost.
The actual trade for Tambling
We got Adelaide's late 1st round (Bock compo pick) and their 3rd round pick (pick 50)
Pick 50 became pick 51. Which we used on McDonald
(Draft order moved down because WCE got Darling (p26) as an end of 1st rd priority pick and North Melbourne got Kieran Harper p27)
**GC didn't pick after rd 1.**
We swapped the (Bock) compo pick to GC for pick 26 (Elton) and what previously was Ports (Nathan Krakouer) compo pick that was traded back to GC (we've activated for this years draft)
Pick 47 (Helbig) was always ours. We tried to trade that with Essendon for Houli, but they wanted more, Houli went into the psd, we used that on Helbig
* wiki says we got 47 in the Tambling trade, but that's incorrect. You just have to go to 2nd rd-pick 30 Batchelor, (add 17) 3rd rd-47 Helbig 4th rd-63 Derryx
Re: Tambling [Merged]
chimp pick 2
rambling pick 2
light years apart
chimp had skill with desire
rambling had nil
he was spacially lost from the start
struggled to get a kick for coburg
i still remember chimps first game at coburg he showed three bits of magic in two quarters of football after no preseason
tambling apologistsplease die of a quick death
hes gone
get over the ping pong ball
youre the only guy making senseTiger Rob said:
chimp pick 2
rambling pick 2
light years apart
chimp had skill with desire
rambling had nil
he was spacially lost from the start
struggled to get a kick for coburg
i still remember chimps first game at coburg he showed three bits of magic in two quarters of football after no preseason
tambling apologistsplease die of a quick death
hes gone
get over the ping pong ball
