Tambling (merged)

[rockstar_tiger]

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He was suffering from foot pain, it took some time to diagnose it as a blood flow issue
The surgury was done over the preseason and it required both his calves to be sliced open
Only way he can recover to the level required is to keep increasing his work load, but it'll take time

That's right, thanks.

Personally I'm backing Tambling to become not only a good player, but a very good one.

It is entirely possible that in the next 6 seasons, he may out-perform Buddy in most of them. At least I'm backing him to be good enough to get the critics off his back.

 

[Rosy]

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....It is entirely possible that in the next 6 seasons, he may out-perform Buddy in most of them. ......

Of course anything is possible but I'd be interested to know what that opinion is based on and how you measure the performance of very different types of players. I find it disappointing, and quite futile, that the two are compared so often.

 

[Barnzy]

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Of course anything is possible but I'd be interested to know what that opinion is based on and how you measure the performance of very different types of players. I find it disappointing, and quite futile, that the two are compared so often.

Should take it up with Dwayne Russell then Rosy. He loves to bring it up a lot. :spin

 

[rockstar_tiger]

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Of course anything is possible but I'd be interested to know what that opinion is based on and how you measure the performance of very different types of players. I find it disappointing, and quite futile, that the two are compared so often.

There is no reason to compare Buddy and Bling other than as a response to the unfair media scrutiny.

If Buddy doesn't do much else for his career (sits at his current level) and Richie continues to improve (as he was before the injury this year) it's possible that in a few years people might say Richmond were right to be cautious of Buddy's attitude. Last year he was critisised for having a round belly and gaining weight, if that is happening at 22 imagine Buddy at 27/28. I'm not saying it will happen, but it's possible, and not as far fetched as some might think.

Tambling's form last year was very good, and he still had improvement IMO. Could be as good as Leon Davis next year, and whether we like it or not the Buddy comparisons will never disappear... our only hope is if Bling is good enough to sway the opinions back in our favour.

 

[Scribblar]

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Whether you like it or not, Tambling was clearly in the team's top 3 last year. He's also in the bottom few for turnovers and top few for kicks to advantage, even this year when he's badly out of form.

Being in the top 3 in last's year rabble doesn't mean much.

Bottom few for turnovers???? Have a look at the "few" turnovers he did on the weekend.
He made some massive blunders across half back. He even dropped a regulation sitter, that INSTANTLY put us in a position where the Hawks went over the top, easily over every, (now out of position) Richmond player onwards to an easy goal. Why were they now out of position?
Because they were out of position EXPECTING Tambling to hold a regulation mark.

There was another time when another goal came from a major balls-up from Tambling. Some players turn the ball over with team-mates close or even opponents far away....some turn it over in packs or near boundary lines. These times you don't necessarily get hurt. Tambling's brain feezes, turnovers, and poor decision making has never changed. A goal here or there and a tackle here and there does not way up to the damage he does to us when he stuffs up our major plays. Don't lie, we've all seen Tambling over and over again strangle Richmond's free flowing plays with his dead-end fumbles, poor decisions or disposals.

Face reality. Tambling's blunders HURT us EVERY TIME. And his play that doesn't hurt us, doesn't always benefit us.
You can't say that about many players.

Trade bait. And if he's still playing after this year....a list clogger!

 

[Barnzy]

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Just seems the little things with Tambling, like he doesn't understand the game. For example, on the weekend in one play Newman was rushing down the middle on his left side ready to kick inside 50 and Tambling was beside him calling for the ball, blocking his run to an extent. Why doesn't Tambling realise if Newman gives him the ball he's on his wrong side for a right footer so it would be foolish to give it off and Newman is already on his left side so he should get out of his way?

Certainly not game breaking but just an observation. His decision making and kicking have been poor this year too. Compartment syndrome could maybe be used as an excuse for something physical like kicking but decision making and footy smarts that come naturally...don't know about that.

 

[nswtiger]

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Tambling

Here my take!!!

For me Richie is a natural free flowing instinctive type of player
However in the afl and in a team like Richmond, we need players to think along team rules and different types of plays which does not allow Richie to play to his strengthens…….Richie is being taught to think along team rules first and not to act on his free flowing type of play .so he is still learning how to play a structured game…..which is not natural for him…………...richo is/was kind of the same
!!! As soon as richo had to think (i.e. kicking at goals) he become somewhat less effective, but on the run from the 50 m arc (no time to think) he was unbelievable

 

[Disco08]

Re: Tambling [Merged]

Being in the top 3 in last's year rabble doesn't mean much.

It certainly means he's above average.

Bottom few for turnovers?Huh Have a look at the "few" turnovers he did on the weekend.
He made some massive blunders across half back. He even dropped a regulation sitter, that INSTANTLY put us in a position where the Hawks went over the top, easily over every, (now out of position) Richmond player onwards to an easy goal. Why were they now out of position?
Because they were out of position EXPECTING Tambling to hold a regulation mark.

There was another time when another goal came from a major balls-up from Tambling. Some players turn the ball over with team-mates close or even opponents far away....some turn it over in packs or near boundary lines. These times you don't necessarily get hurt. Tambling's brain feezes, turnovers, and poor decision making has never changed. A goal here or there and a tackle here and there does not way up to the damage he does to us when he stuffs up our major plays. Don't lie, we've all seen Tambling over and over again strangle Richmond's free flowing plays with his dead-end fumbles, poor decisions or disposals.

This year maybe. There's even truth in much of that when looking at his form this year in isolation. The question is though is this year's form a true indication of his ability. I'd say given the dramatic drop off from last year it's not.

Face reality. Tambling's blunders HURT us EVERY TIME. And his play that doesn't hurt us, doesn't always benefit us.
You can't say that about many players.

Again, probably some truth in that this year alone but none at all if you look at what he did most of last year.

 

[TheTokyoTiger]

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Has he signed with the GC?

 

[SAF]

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Tambling often does not run hard when the ball is more than 20 meters away from him. I see it a lot where he suddenly runs hard (there is a noticable change of pace) and just doesn't quite make it to the contest or just fails to lay a tackle in time but if you watch him we was only jogging for the first 20/30 meters, if he ran harder earlier he would make more contests and be in the game a lot more.

There is no excuse for not running hard these days, that's why there is so many rotations. The ability and work eithic to run hard most of the time is the one things that all the great champions have, Cousins had it in his prime, so did Richo, Robert Harvey, Judd, Ablett, Nick Reiwolt and Buckley. All of these great players would get a few extra possessions and maybe a extra goal here and there because they just run harder and worked more than other players. You'd think that Tambling would have recognised this as a weakness that he could improve by now and done something about it, the fact that he hasn't by now suggests he will never be a top line professional footballer.

 

[GoodOne]

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In a big article on him last month I believe he said he's had the injury for a couple of years.

Hard to understand this. From everything I read it states that the problem of CS is chronic and the pain prevents you from running at all after a short period of time. On this basis I cant see how he could possibly have had this for 2 years and played AFL footy (and some good games last year). As I understand, having this condition for any length of time kills tissue that can never be rejuvenated, and therefore early diagnosis is cirtical. Seems unlikely.

I understand that if rehabilitation takes a long time, that you have to ease into it and closely watch progress. In this case I just cannot understand why he is playing at AFL level. He should be playing at a level where it's not critical for him to play at 100% effort. We, of all teams, can't afford players in our team who are unable to put their full effort into it. Very perplexing.

 

[rockstar_tiger]

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Someone earlier on said for the last couple of years he's had pains in his feet, because of no circulation. This became so bad sometimes he couldn't feel his feet off memory. I'll look up the article later. So he hasn't had CS for two years, but personally I'm not sure what the link is between that and lack of circulation in his feet.

I would like to know exactly what his injury was and the details on his recovery. That would help us judge where he's at.

 

[Go The Tiges!]

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trade him for a 2nd round pick to GC. that would be a nice deal

 

[tbartiger]

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Forget his injury / what position suits him best / his draft position / how he may have been treated by previous coaching staff / his fragile mental state / comparisons to Buddy / hypnotherapy etc etc etc.

How many excuses can we make for someone playing sh!t footy?

Put up or shut up time for RT. Dreamtime at the G this week, perfect time for him to lift. Anyone believe he will?

 

[Djevv]

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Forget his injury / what position suits him best / his draft position / how he may have been treated by previous coaching staff / his fragile mental state / comparisons to Buddy / hypnotherapy etc etc etc.

How many excuses can we make for someone playing sh!t footy?

Put up or shut up time for RT. Dreamtime at the G this week, perfect time for him to lift. Anyone believe he will?

No as he is injured.

 

[Baloo]

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If he's injured, or recovering from an injury, I can't understand why we play him. He's not adding that much value that he's worth playing injured. Surely this is the time Beavis will be giving everyone a shot to see if they are worthy of remaining on the list come year end.

Playing Bling injured is not doing him any good or the team any good.

But maybe he's not injured and this run of games is a chance for Beavis to see what he has in Bling.

 

[ToraToraTora]

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I'll tell you exactly what Richie will do this week.
Jog around a bit. Lay a couple of tackles. Dog of a handball, turnover. Jog around a bit. Strong mark. Not go hard enough, Bombers goal. Jog around a bit. Get on the end of loose ball, snap a sausage. Jog around a bit. Tackle. Siren.

How do I know this? Cos thats what he does every freakin week and if you cant see that you are blind.

 

[Willo]

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I'll tell you exactly what Richie will do this week.
Jog around a bit. Lay a couple of tackles. Dog of a handball, turnover. Jog around a bit. Strong mark. Not go hard enough, Bombers goal. Jog around a bit. Get on the end of loose ball, snap a sausage. Jog around a bit. Tackle. Siren.

How do I know this? Cos thats what he does every freakin week and if you cant see that you are blind.

Agreed. Just no intensity to his game.

 

[funky]

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if tambling had cousins aproach to training and playing he would
be a star

 

[tbartiger]

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I'll tell you exactly what Richie will do this week.
Jog around a bit. Lay a couple of tackles. Dog of a handball, turnover. Jog around a bit. Strong mark. Not go hard enough, Bombers goal. Jog around a bit. Get on the end of loose ball, snap a sausage. Jog around a bit. Tackle. Siren.

How do I know this? Cos thats what he does every freakin week and if you cant see that you are blind.

Strongest possible agreement from me. Would rather DH put time into players that will do whatever it takes to forge an AFL career.