Spot on Phantom. The numbers you listed are exactly what you want to see from a young kid starting his career.Phantom said:
Ritchie has been growing into the game very nicely and should from this year on really start to stamp himself onto the game.
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Ritchie has been growing into the game very nicely and should from this year on really start to stamp himself onto the game.
My gut feeling on Tambling is,
He will be a good player, but not a great one,
He will give flashes of brilliance, but not consistent enough to be great,
And I really do hope I am wrong, not trying to be a negative smartarse,
But that is my opinion of him, he just seems to be lacking something.
He will be a good player, but not a great one,
He will give flashes of brilliance, but not consistent enough to be great,
And I really do hope I am wrong, not trying to be a negative smartarse,
But that is my opinion of him, he just seems to be lacking something.
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I have always thought that he hasn't had confidence in his hamstrings. Won't stretch out enough early on when running, then gains confidence and smokes it. It's the hesitation at the start that seems to be his problem.
i agree all teams need guns and yes we are lacking in guns. but imo the expectation for all footballers coming to our club should be no more than good solid well rounded 10 + yr players regardless of where they are taken in the draft. if they become great well that would be a bonus.IrockZ said:
taking kids early should strengthen the chances of getting your hands on great players if they only become competent long term players which is what you are tying to guarantee with early picks well you have not wasted that pick.
the claw said:
That says it all clawsy.
Deledio was a Rising Star winner and number one draft pick.
He in particular is one we need to move into the elite category if we are going to win a premiership sometime in the next ten years.
Disco08 said:
No.
He still played well below average. I think we have thrashed Tambling, discussing his apparent weaknesses. If you want to give him an elephant stamp for 'improving' that's your opinion.
Every Tiger on this planet would want the Blingsta to burn this year, it's a big year for him. I'll keep a close eye on him in the practice & pre-season games, you don't need to be Einstein to see if 'certain' areas of his game have improved.
C'mon Blingsta, show us what you're made of!
Disco, do you think Richie thinks he'll need to perform this year?
Disco08 said:
Didn't exactly turn a corner, but salvaged something from a year of dissapointment, both individually and from a team perspective.
I'm not sure what gpb is referring when saying "no excuses"; perhaps he's stating, no excuses returning to the embarrassment of the Hawthorn game. Would you see that as a fair comment? After all, TW & GM keep telling us the graphs are pointing in the upward direction.
Yeah, to a point. Everyone has bad days though and it's how you react to those days that proves your character.
I don't think he needs to perform any more than the rest of his draft class, save maybe Franklin, Lewis and Deledio. As I've said before it's obvious to see that kids coming from the NT take longer to get up to the pace of AFL than most others and Tambling has shown a nice steady progression so far during his AFL career. As for what he himself actually thinks, I'm not clairvoyant, so who knows?
That said though he really did hit a low point last year where he looked completely lost, cumulating in the Hawks game where Buddy carved it up and Bling did less than nothing. I honestly think this was a bit of a kick in the butt and his last 6 games of the year following this were markedly better both in his production and his endeavor.
geoffryprettyboy said:
I don't think he needs to perform any more than the rest of his draft class, save maybe Franklin, Lewis and Deledio. As I've said before it's obvious to see that kids coming from the NT take longer to get up to the pace of AFL than most others and Tambling has shown a nice steady progression so far during his AFL career. As for what he himself actually thinks, I'm not clairvoyant, so who knows?
That said though he really did hit a low point last year where he looked completely lost, cumulating in the Hawks game where Buddy carved it up and Bling did less than nothing. I honestly think this was a bit of a kick in the butt and his last 6 games of the year following this were markedly better both in his production and his endeavor.
Personally I think we need to be realistic about what we expect from Tambling in terms of the type of footballer he is. I don't think he's ever gonna be a genuine midfielder, in the sense that he'll pick up 30 possessions every game, like a Foley.
If he's getting 15-20 damaging possessions that turn a game, bobs up for 3/4/5 goal hauls regularly, then I think he'll be doing his job. I see him as an impact player that other teams know could tear them apart at any moment and so has to be watched 100% of the time.
If he's getting 15-20 damaging possessions that turn a game, bobs up for 3/4/5 goal hauls regularly, then I think he'll be doing his job. I see him as an impact player that other teams know could tear them apart at any moment and so has to be watched 100% of the time.
Disco08 said:
Its not exactly an isolated game we are focussing here Disco. Sure, he bounced back in some fashion. And yes, thats a testiment to his character. But, during the off season everyone goes back to zero and your past success gurantees you nothing!
Some recent posts state Tambling not to be a geniune midfielder, but rather an impact player getting 20 touches and kicking regularly, three to five goals a game. I remember as kid watching players like Wayne Johnston & Peter Daicos get the 20 touches and kicking a handful of goals to be the impact, match winning players. Again, they were also noted for going into the midfield and lifting their sides in the big, crunch matches. They were not geniune midfielders by any stretch of the imagination.
Others are firm believers the expectation of early draft picks should always remain high. I tend to agree. Imagine what a Richmond outfit would look like if Tambling's game went to a level, as some touted him to be the No. 1 draft pick in 2004?
If this club is ever going to be successful again, we need at least ten top-liners going around. If we get into the habit of downgrading the "cherry pickings" from previous drafts, we are just kidding ourselves.
if he was not a number one pick your best expectations for him would be a very solid ten plus yr player. why should that change just because he went one.Tigers of Old said:
i keep saying your top 10 picks should be expected to be good long term players for you there should be no expectation of them becoming champions. if they do its a bonus. what you dont want with your top 10 picks is for them to be off your list in 2 or 3 yrs or they become fringe players.
if deledio doesnt become elite we just have to hope we can draft a couple in the near future.
andrew raines was runner up in the rising star do we expect him to become elite. for me considering where he was drafted we will do well to get 100 games out of him.
the claw said:
I understand what you are saying but I don't think you really believe that.
If Deledio just becomes a middle of the road player like Greg Tivendale no doubt you'd be extremely disappointed.
You'd want him to become one of our best. In other words a gun.
