Re: Tambling - FIRE UP!
Disco08 said:
Surely there's been more than 5 superstars play in the last 40 odd years jack.
I think benny's definition is the most relevant.
Anyway, I wasn't serious. I just think it's stupid to say you can guarantee anything about the future of a 20 year old player.
Since '67 Disco , those are who'd I would CLASS as SUPERSTARS that I SEEN play the Game ( always a subjective matter , that's just my Opin.)
I believe the "Word" is handed out with way to much flippancy Nowaday's to be honest.
Everyone of those Blokes could WIN a Game off his own boot, and not just once in a Blue Moon , so to speak .
No easy task when you take into account the number's that take the field for a game of Footy.
Having not seen a Game "LIVE" for the last 19 Years (since '88) , obviously I'm limited and somewhat hesitant to name any Recent players.
From what I've seen over that time though , James Hird would go close to giving it a Nudge.
Superstars > Champions > Great's > Good.
There are the Categories I'd be willing to use to judge players and believe me , Superstars is going to have the least amount of members by a LONG , LONG way.
I agree that's it's harsh to say that a 20 year old isn't going to make it at this level , but from what I've seen of Tambling , I'll stick to my original statement with absolute conviction. I have NO FEAR that this Kid will not be even be a "Good" Player in his time with this Club.
He need's to be surrounded by a Strong Supporting Class and that isn't going to be our Strong Point anytime soon. That's what I base my opinion on.
That's not to say that he couldn't end up somewhere else and completely turn his fortunes around (One G. Ablett immediately comes to mind) but it is very rare and takes a whole lot of sacrifices from that player to reach those lofty goals.
Bling hasn't shown me ANYTHING to suggest that he has that type of Desire.
Let's be honest , good , hard-working player's in ordinary sides can be tagged as Champions simply because they stand out more and have no-one to compete against except there own standards. That's why a Heap of Brownlow's over the years have gone to Good-Honest Types rather than "The Best".
I could see a player like Bling going along "Very Nicely" in the current Geelong Side for example. Will he or would he be capable of that in THIS Richmond side...........NO WAY.
He doesn't "create" , he's a receiver who has the ability to finish and that's fine , there's been plenty of those over the years who've made good livings but they didn't play for teams that are as poor as this current Richmond Squad.
That's why I think it's in both parties "Best Interest" to cut-the-cord now whilst he is still of some value , let's get some Big , experienced Bodies, they don't have to Gun's , just Hard-Nut's , and see where that leads us. Youngun's aren't gonna help , 50 gamer's with good size is what we need , so what's to lose, it's not like we could go any worse.
Still don't get how Benny's "definition" is more relevant but that's fine , your welcome to your opinion.
I'll be the First to stand-up and admit "I was Wrong" if Bling turns it around , no problem , just can't see it happening though.
Cheer's.............