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Talking Politics
- Thread starter Legends of 2017
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Liverpool said:
Untrue. I know of at least one case a few years ago where a student with high marks failed to gain a place in a university course while a full fee paying student with a lower entrance score gained a place.
I can't remember the particulars of the case but I remember the argument I had with a guy at work over it.
Six Pack said:
I said this:
What you should be questioning is if we do have a shortage of university places here in Australia, why do we allow so many overseas students to study here?
And if our universities are so bad and behind the times, why are so many overseas students coming here to gain their higher education?
They were simple questions that should be asked, instead of people like Azza trying to give people the impression that our education system is that of some 3rd world country caused by 'big bad Johnny'.
So I haven't dumped anything on the overseas students Sixpack, but you seem to think I am, so why don't you give us an idea of what angle you are playing at?
1eyedtiger said:
And again I ask the questions:
What you should be questioning is if we do have a shortage of university places here in Australia, why do we allow so many overseas students to study here?
And if our universities are so bad and behind the times, why are so many overseas students coming here to gain their higher education?
Six Pack said:
Sixpack,
Is what I have said untrue?
I thought it would have justified that we have a good education system seeing that so many overseas students are willing to come here and take places....wouldn't you agree?
guys correct me if I'm wrong on this point.But I seem to remember that in the last federal budget the amount of money spent on the private education system was almost as much as that spent on public education.This i dont understand ,because i always thought that the private system was self funded.
barty boy said:
I would have thought the more encouragement there was for the Government subsidising private schools and supporting these schools, then the better.....so that more parents are inclined to enrol their kids in a private school education, therefore easing the drain on the public school system.
barty boy said:
Then private schools would raise their fees even higher to compensate this loss, forcing more kids back from private schools and into public schools.....and then they will be more overcrowded than they are already.
The end result, a poorer education system for ALL Australian kids.
Liverpool said:Six Pack said:
Yeah...and all people who earn $50,000 a year should get a free Ferrari. :
Get real Sixpack.
Agree with you here six pack. We all pay taxes regardless of our financial situations and therefore we should have equal access to any services that is publicly funded.
Comparing an education with a Ferrari is hardly valid.
1eyedtiger said:
It is valid.
Why should a Mr and Mrs Rich, who have enough money to give their child a top education be forced to lower their standards because Joe Blow sits at home on the dole and can't be stuffed getting a job to send his kid to school?
I've had this argument before with Remote.
What you are advocating is a type of socialism/communism, where the rich are penalised for being that, and people who have plodded along in life are rewarded for doing nothing, therefore keeping everyone 'equal'.
Where would the ambition and dreams of people come from, if there was no pot of gold at the end of the tunnel to work hard over?
Why should rich people be penalised for being successful, yet plodders rewarded and looked after for showing no desire or ambition?
I don't want a world like that.
Dear me livers,surely you arent saying that poverty equates with a lack of ambition.I think there isnt a human being alive who doesnt have an ambition of a better life.We all strive for a better life,some are better at it than others,or circumstances dictate the outcome.
But the very fact that we get out of bed each morning ,in itself says that we have ambition to better oneself.
But the very fact that we get out of bed each morning ,in itself says that we have ambition to better oneself.
