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tigerlove said:
I thought it was an ok article. It was talking about peaking too early. What I don't agree with in the article is that the Tigers have played great footy thus far. I don't think we've hit our straps at all and at times have been very sloppy. The best is still to come, hopefully peaking around September.
We may have peaked too early, only time will tell, but a lot of these articles smack of fear. The media is absolutely terrified of us being the real deal and the dominant force in the game. Whateley was really nice to us when we were a joke and no threat, as soon as we got good, winning a flag good, his attitude changed.
 
I think it’s fair to say we have not got the most highly skilled list in the competition, but in the absence of this option the list managers have opted for players with physical gifts instead. Guys with elite endurance like Kmac, Bellis, Houli, Lambert, or elite speed like Butler, George and Rioli.

What’s frustrating is the lack of respect given to the Tigers for doing this, because it’s not like we had a choice. The time the Tigers were attempting to rebuild unfortunately (or fortunately in hindsight!) coincided with the expansion teams sucking the skilled players out of the draft and forcing teams like the Tigers to forge another path.

I’m still waiting for anybody in the media to figure this out, what the Tigers have done is truly extraordinary. Building a flag winning team during heavily compromised drafts using mostly late picks, rookie picks or recycled players. No doubt the media would be creaming their pants if the GWS were on top of the ladder, god knows why, more first round draft picks than any team in history. But anybody with half a brain, a football brain, would admit that the Tigers flag was a great moment in football history.
 
That is an excellent observation and very well put linuscambridge - most football journalists today, and particularly those with a strong affiliation with the main players of the AFL, are dinosaurs and belong to the "old boys" footballing club and will toe whatever line the AFL wants to push to prop up their most pressing, but ever changing agendas!

Don’t expect, lucid, well-considered, observant and relevant football journalism from that lot my friend! ::)
 
linuscambridge said:
I think it’s fair to say we have not got the most highly skilled list in the competition,


think its another myth, which I dont mind being perpetuated.

a mob of battling role players punching above their weight.

That'll do me fine.

GWS are the superskilled, elite, A graders :hihi

we are just a bunch of battlers
 
Tigerdangerous said:
That is an excellent observation and very well put linuscambridge - most football journalists today, and particularly those with a strong affiliation with the main players of the AFL, are dinosaurs and belong to the "old boys" footballing club and will toe whatever line the AFL wants to push to prop up their most pressing, but ever changing agendas!

Don’t expect, lucid, well-considered, observant and relevant football journalism from that lot my friend! ::)

Exactly, I’m trying to think of one that doesn’t have a bias or their own agenda, but I’m struggling. Best I can think of, although he isn’t working in footy at the moment, is probably Bruce Mc Aveney. A man who just loves sport and can appreciate it on its merits.
 
We are far from "peaked"

I reckon we are warming up. Just playing a straight bat to some average teams bringing their best effort and throwing everything they have at us.

We will get a better idea as we get to the pointy end and play some better competition.



See how we play when we bring the intensity we played with through the finals.
 
ninjahaha said:
We are far from "peaked"


Absolutely!!!!

I reckon we are warming up. Just playing a straight bat to some average teams bringing their best effort and throwing everything they have at us.

We will get a better idea as we get to the pointy end and play some better competition.



See how we play when we bring the intensity we played with through the finals.
 
How the hell is it possible for us to have peaked too early already. Six weeks in we are 5 and 1, exactly the same as last year. We might even reach a mid year point of 10 and 2 without even peaking. There's been plenty of teams over the years that have won 16 - 18 - 20 games during the home and away n gone deep into finals or won the flag.

Talk of peaking when the season has barely started is nothing more than an xspurt click baiting the public.
 
linuscambridge said:
I think it’s fair to say we have not got the most highly skilled list in the competition, but in the absence of this option the list managers have opted for players with physical gifts instead. Guys with elite endurance like Kmac, Bellis, Houli, Lambert, or elite speed like Butler, George and Rioli.

What’s frustrating is the lack of respect given to the Tigers for doing this, because it’s not like we had a choice. The time the Tigers were attempting to rebuild unfortunately (or fortunately in hindsight!) coincided with the expansion teams sucking the skilled players out of the draft and forcing teams like the Tigers to forge another path.

I’m still waiting for anybody in the media to figure this out, what the Tigers have done is truly extraordinary. Building a flag winning team during heavily compromised drafts using mostly late picks, rookie picks or recycled players. No doubt the media would be creaming their pants if the GWS were on top of the ladder, god knows why, more first round draft picks than any team in history. But anybody with half a brain, a football brain, would admit that the Tigers flag was a great moment in football history.

:clap :clap :clap :clap brilliant post
 
TigerMasochist said:
How the hell is it possible for us to have peaked too early already. Six weeks in we are 5 and 1, exactly the same as last year. We might even reach a mid year point of 10 and 2 without even peaking. There's been plenty of teams over the years that have won 16 - 18 - 20 games during the home and away n gone deep into finals or won the flag.

Talk of peaking when the season has barely started is nothing more than an xspurt click baiting the public.
We peaked at exactly the right time last year. Tuned up for the finals by belting a couple of also rans and carried it all the way through to the GF. Dusty going full super nova during the finaks didn't hurt either.
 
ToraToraTora said:
We haven't even been playing that well. I'm serious!

I agree. Still room for improvement.
Still need to get our forward line correct.
 
ToraToraTora said:
We haven't even been playing that well. I'm serious!

Agree, not as good as we could have. A better performance today other than the 3rd quarter.

But, I think most commentators are now lauding the tigers as clearlt the best team in the comp.
 
CarnTheTiges said:
We peaked at exactly the right time last year. Tuned up for the finals by belting a couple of also rans and carried it all the way through to the GF. Dusty going full super nova during the finaks didn't hurt either.
Spent the year adjusting to n learning our new game system, obviously there was going to be a few stumbles along the way. We've been playing some ordinary footy at times this year, but simply trying to maintain the systems n structures that served us so well last year. Nowhere near peaking yet, simply playing reasonably competitive n honest team footy again.
 
linuscambridge said:
I think it’s fair to say we have not got the most highly skilled list in the competition, but in the absence of this option the list managers have opted for players with physical gifts instead. Guys with elite endurance like Kmac, Bellis, Houli, Lambert, or elite speed like Butler, George and Rioli.

What’s frustrating is the lack of respect given to the Tigers for doing this, because it’s not like we had a choice. The time the Tigers were attempting to rebuild unfortunately (or fortunately in hindsight!) coincided with the expansion teams sucking the skilled players out of the draft and forcing teams like the Tigers to forge another path.

I’m still waiting for anybody in the media to figure this out, what the Tigers have done is truly extraordinary. Building a flag winning team during heavily compromised drafts using mostly late picks, rookie picks or recycled players. No doubt the media would be creaming their pants if the GWS were on top of the ladder, god knows why, more first round draft picks than any team in history. But anybody with half a brain, a football brain, would admit that the Tigers flag was a great moment in football history.
Just think how the second one will be??????
 
El Riggardless said:
Robert Walls gave the 3 2 1 to Freo players for AFL Nation

This is hilarious

I think its fair enough if theoretically the 3 stand out players on the ground were to the team that lost. Especially if the winning team had a very even contribution from all players. This pretty much summed up the game. Fyfe was clearly the best man on the ground but in a losing side, while we didnt have any clear stand out players, probably Lambert being our best. Thers no rule the votes have to come from the winning side.
 
Look on the bright side, at least we are not Essendon, the only club in the AFL where the players are softer than their fans.
 
According to Kingy, we are 20% better than the next best side, but that is bad news for us because there are 15 weeks left until finals and everyone will be watching us intently trying to devise a plan to beat us. While that is true, it doesn't mean they will find one. Everyone tried to find a way to beat Hawthorn for three straight years. (Not that it stopped Wankley drooling over the prospect. He is desperate for us to come unstuck.)

How do you develop a tactic to combat extreme pressure and superior running?

Teams get numbers back in defence, A) to help out defenders, because the only thing forwards like more than a 1-on-1 is a Joe the Goose, but also B) to run the ball out when they win it back. Overlap running is devastating but can only happen if you have numbers behind the ball. The trouble is, running the ball out of our forward line is immensely difficult, because each handball merely refers the pressure to the next link in the chain. This leads to dump kicks forward, which are eaten up by our defence, A) because they are so good, and B) because they have a numerical advantage.

So, what do you do? Don't get numbers back so you have an even contest when you dump kick it? Good luck leaving Jack and co. one-out. Win contested possession and play keepings-off? You'll need elite ball winners and elite ball users and a lot of patience, because if you chip it around against us, we'll man the mark every time and slow you down to a crawl. Extreme pressure and ballistic ball movement? Welcome to our backyard.

I dunno. It's hard to see a way to beat us at the moment. Pundits are asking if we're peaking too early but I reckon we have 20% improvement up our sleeve.

"Hope to meet Richmond in the grand final and then assign someone to knock out four of their players" is the clubhouse leader at the moment.