Set Shot Goal Kicking

[Ridley]

How bad are we at this! Clearly cost us the game tonight. We are statistically the worst in the league and was never in more evidence than tonight.

Can not kick 10.18 and expect to beat top sides. Our leaders let us down. Cotchin, Riewoldt, Martin. Griffiths is worse than even money from 20-30 metres out. He is soft.

Shows up the mental fragility still lingering in the playing group. We were all over them but again could not put a side away and this week it cost us the game.

Golden opportunity blown. This loss could prove extremely costly in the wash up.

 

[22nd Man]

Agree. But be prepared for apologists to throw this back in your face anytime from now until 2020.

 

[MB78]

Good post.

During the week how much practice do we have on set shot kicking, and who is the coach that helps with this?

 

[tiger_25]

Totally agree. Was eventually going to cost us big time. Today is the day

 

[Harry]

A natural forward in lennon showed how its done. Need more natural forwards. Mcbean. At least he wont melt like griff

 

[tigertim]

L2R, any readily available stats on our accuracy this season compared to the other 17 sides?

 

[Ridley]

L2R, any readily available stats on our accuracy this season compared to the other 17 sides?

There was one in the paper a week or so ago. We rank 18th from set shots from the zone where you should kick them. I think it was something like up to 30 metres out within a 45 degree angle. Less than 70% success rate.

It killed us tonight.

 

[French Tiger]

Has been crap all year, I think I saw a stat a week or 2 ago we had the worst conversion % in the league.

 

[Japantiger]

Cotch should NEVER have a set shot at goal. Have Newman stand beside him, handball and goal. I don't think we have a worse player at set shots as our captain.

7? posters tonight, I think Dusty had 4???

Anyway, we are becoming a good team BUT we will never win anything of significance if we can't learn to kick the little leather thingy between the two big stick thingys. Good teams and even a few average teams will make you pay for doing anything but that. Reminds me of Geelong handing Hawthorn a premiership because they just couldn't kick straight.

Food for thought

 

[waiting]

I was going to ask the same thing.

18th if that's right is s###.

Has been poor for a few years!

 

[toby64]

Its pathetic.

Cost us time and time again this year.

Even the so called guns cant kick em.

*smile* infuriating

 

[French Tiger]

Bad kicking is bad football

 

[tigertim]

Rd17: 10.18
16: 13:11
15: 10:11
14: 10:18
13: 14:11
12: 10:10
11: bye
10: 15:7
9: 10:12
8: 11:10
7: 16:9
6: 10:14
5: 11:10
4: 6:15
3: 21:11
2: 9:12
1: 15:15

G:191: B:194

385 scoring shots. 49.6% accuracy. Obviously that'd be better without the rushed behinds but that's the same for all teams. I've said this before but how professional AFL footy players are only a 50% chance of scoring a goal is astounding.

 

[The_General]

Fantastic thread. Wholeheartedly agree.
Cotchin can never be an all-Australian captain, until he fixes this.

Right now I'd trade Griff and keep Vickery. I love griff, but he doesn't have the mental toughness we need. Dusty was just wasteful. As was Reiwoldt. Usually both would expect better.

 

[poppa x]

The lads I DON'T want kicking a crucial set shot are Cotch, Dusty, Lids and Brandon.
The only player I have faith in is Tyrone.

It's sad.

 

[pete and tys]

Rd17: 10.18
16: 13:11
15: 10:11
14: 10:18
13: 14:11
12: 10:10
11: bye
10: 15:7
9: 10:12
8: 11:10
7: 16:9
6: 10:14
5: 11:10
4: 6:15
3: 21:11
2: 9:12
1: 15:15

G:191: B:194

385 scoring shots. 49.6% accuracy. Obviously that'd be better without the rushed behinds but that's the same for all teams. I've said this before but how professional AFL footy players are only a 50% chance of scoring a goal is astounding.

Have often wondered why the place kick we see in rugby is not used.
Those players kick at a very high success rate.
Inter sting what the AFL would do with the 20 second nonsense rule then.

 

[Tigermad2005]

Rd17: 10.18
16: 13:11
15: 10:11
14: 10:18
13: 14:11
12: 10:10
11: bye
10: 15:7
9: 10:12
8: 11:10
7: 16:9
6: 10:14
5: 11:10
4: 6:15
3: 21:11
2: 9:12
1: 15:15

G:191: B:194

385 scoring shots. 49.6% accuracy. Obviously that'd be better without the rushed behinds but that's the same for all teams. I've said this before but how professional AFL footy players are only a 50% chance of scoring a goal is astounding.

Oh and out on the full is not counted in that number.

 

[Tigermad2005]

Have often wondered why the place kick we see in rugby is not used.
Those players kick at a very high success rate.
Inter sting what the AFL would do with the 20 second nonsense rule then.

They are not kicking it from pockets etc.

 

[Tenacious Tiges]

http://puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=50838.msg1833214#msg1833214

A link to a similar thread back in May. I posted then that I was amazed to hear Buckley and Roos saying on 360 one night that they struggle to fit goal kicking practice into the week because they have all these other key areas of training etc that they need to achieve. Full time professionals and a 50% goal kicking average (give or take considering rushed behinds and out on the fulls).

Everyone is looking for all these marginal gains in the game but the most important facet is neglected. I shake my head.

A prime example of the massive gains of practicing goal kicking is Lindsey Thomas. A few years back he was getting lots of opportunities and missing a lot of set shots. He went away and practised and has improved his goal kicking accuracy a lot over the last 3-4 years. So why wouldn't our brains trust think about this better than 1 percenter. What do you have to lose?

 

[K3]

They are not kicking it from pockets etc.

"Not kicking from pockets". Have you watched many Rugby Union or League games? There are a large number of kicks taken from on the sidelines, and when you get the cameraman standing behind the player, the goals aren't real wide!