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Sam Lloyd
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Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
Lloyd before Gordon, any day .... but neither is going to take the Tigers to premiership glory ... stop-gap at best
Lloyd before Gordon, any day .... but neither is going to take the Tigers to premiership glory ... stop-gap at best
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
This thread is on Lloyd who is a small forward. I've posted in support of him as our best option at the moment who shows at VFL level he has got the requisite skills but just has to be able to step up to the top level, really capitalise on his chances and find consistency. But he must be persevered with. I must admit, after the Melbourne game, I thought he was a waste of space.
But, the retrospective comments are relevant here because our forward line is our weakness. We cannot kick enough goals, rely far too much on Jack still, plus must have keys mids scoring too. Whereas, opponents like Roos beat us with four SFs - Harvey, Higgins, Thomas and Nahas. Pies have their weapon in Elliot, Fasolo is handy, and others. Hawks have stars in Bruest, Rioli and Puopolo who also kick a lot of their goals. The club certainly didn't plan on losing King and Foley so early - that's another reason failing to keep White has cost us. We're now scratching around to find these SFs, with Butler and Short maybe a year or two away if they're good enough at all. At least Conca back is a positive; hope he's fit enough to not break down again. But believe that we will not be a true premiership team if our offensive game doesn't get a lot more dangerous.
This thread is on Lloyd who is a small forward. I've posted in support of him as our best option at the moment who shows at VFL level he has got the requisite skills but just has to be able to step up to the top level, really capitalise on his chances and find consistency. But he must be persevered with. I must admit, after the Melbourne game, I thought he was a waste of space.
But, the retrospective comments are relevant here because our forward line is our weakness. We cannot kick enough goals, rely far too much on Jack still, plus must have keys mids scoring too. Whereas, opponents like Roos beat us with four SFs - Harvey, Higgins, Thomas and Nahas. Pies have their weapon in Elliot, Fasolo is handy, and others. Hawks have stars in Bruest, Rioli and Puopolo who also kick a lot of their goals. The club certainly didn't plan on losing King and Foley so early - that's another reason failing to keep White has cost us. We're now scratching around to find these SFs, with Butler and Short maybe a year or two away if they're good enough at all. At least Conca back is a positive; hope he's fit enough to not break down again. But believe that we will not be a true premiership team if our offensive game doesn't get a lot more dangerous.
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
Guys with elite skills kick clutch goals from unlikely positions. You do this you spread the oppositions zone wider, create more gaps and dramatically increase the pressure on the opposition backs. They then make mistakes, give away free kicks, and over commit to contests.
Lloyd and Lennon demand the tight attention of their defender and make the job easier for all the other forwards.
He will probably get dropped when Edwards comes back, but well done to Sam kicking the clutch goal. I hope the days of Dimma picking a scrubber like Morris to play forward are gone. There is no pressure like scoreboard pressure.
Guys with elite skills kick clutch goals from unlikely positions. You do this you spread the oppositions zone wider, create more gaps and dramatically increase the pressure on the opposition backs. They then make mistakes, give away free kicks, and over commit to contests.
Lloyd and Lennon demand the tight attention of their defender and make the job easier for all the other forwards.
He will probably get dropped when Edwards comes back, but well done to Sam kicking the clutch goal. I hope the days of Dimma picking a scrubber like Morris to play forward are gone. There is no pressure like scoreboard pressure.
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
Agree - was involved when he came on - kicked 10% of our goals - will play against Adelaide
Agree - was involved when he came on - kicked 10% of our goals - will play against Adelaide
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
Shouldn't have been a sub. Let's add strength by starting him from 1st minute. Our I50 is too empty.
linuscambridge said:
Shouldn't have been a sub. Let's add strength by starting him from 1st minute. Our I50 is too empty.
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
Only on for a short period but was energetic and a great goal that arguably knocked the stuffing out of the Hawks
Only on for a short period but was energetic and a great goal that arguably knocked the stuffing out of the Hawks
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
I called for Kam, but Lennon was a better choice. I'm just saying he shouldn't be a sub anyway.Rancey18 said:
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
I actually think sub is the ideal position for Lloyd. If he starts he seems to spend large parts of the game doing very little, whereas using him as sub allows him to come on and give us a handy goal like he did tonight.Rancey18 said:
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
But Kam and Lennon were really good at times too. Lennon for his strong marks and good kicking; McIntosh for his direct play and willingness to take the game on. I thought Conca might be sub, due to his lack of games, but he really added a lot of class, dash and smarts. If Lloyd can come on and almost ice the game with a killer goal or two like that, he's a great sub.TigerForce said:
Re: Welcome Sam Lloyd
agree. i reckon he will struggle more often than not against good opposition to stay involved, but as sub a 3 kick 1 goal cameo is enough.
CarnTheTiges said:
agree. i reckon he will struggle more often than not against good opposition to stay involved, but as sub a 3 kick 1 goal cameo is enough.
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