Bevo was deflecting from his and his sides *smile* performance. Cheating isn't a good long term coaching strategy. A genuine football side found them out. As we do.
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Round 1 (2022) - other games
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WB seemed to be doing very well on the free kick count ... again
I think in 2016 & 2021 (made GF's ) they were > 25%
and they had healthy figures in the other years
if the umpiring is more of the same I fear we will be on the bottom of the free kick differential ladder ... again :-(
I think in 2016 & 2021 (made GF's ) they were > 25%
and they had healthy figures in the other years
if the umpiring is more of the same I fear we will be on the bottom of the free kick differential ladder ... again :-(
I missed the first quarter but when I started watching in the second quarter the Dogs went on an unanswered 6 goal spree and absolutely dominated the game. I believe they also kicked the last 2 goals of the first quarter to make it 8 unanswered goals? They won nearly every clearance and the much vaunted Melbourne midfield couldn't get hands on the ball. Naughton was killing them in the forward line. I think that Schache mistake really halted the Dogs momentum. Of course I can't definitively say the Dogs would have won if they kicked that goal but I think it would have been a very good chance.
But yes agree with you in general on the Dogs and their personnel and they way they play. I don't really like it either and I think Melbourne is clearly a better team and will beat them the majority of times they play.
A bloke I work with is a Melbourne fan (didn't really know it until last year
). Anyway he went to the game last night and this morning was seething about the umpiring; 30-17 in favour of the Dogs!!!!I told him to go and have a look at the free kick differentials from the past 5 seasons and then come and talk to me
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Can't watch other teams
It's *smile* impossible these days
All valid points Jazz but the fact is as a club they cheated; deliberately lost games to enhance their draft position. The AFL even found them guilty but gave them a suspended fine and bankrolled a messiah coach for them. Ideally we wouldn't have to support teams that make their own mess but realistically the competition at this stage needs all the teams so it has to be done. As you say the AFL needs to do this for the competition to exist in its current format (how long that lasts remains to be seen).
The support they got after being found guilty of cheating is what I don't like. It doesn't sit well.
Jeez I'm agreeing with a lot of your stuff now TBR. The poor old tigers line is getting tiresome.
We've had a great run, I know a Saints supporter born in 67 who has been to every losing GF since then. Now that's sad.
Hopefully we have one more in us and we beat the Dees in the process.
They aren't the only side that were happy to lose. But it didn't help them for quite a period of time.
Hear hear Pudley ! One of your somewhat better posts.This is spot on Spook. I don't mind this particular Melbourne team; can't criticise the way they play. They are pretty good to watch. But I can't stand them as a club. They've been spoon fed by the AFL for years; even had the AFL bankroll a "saviour" coach for a couple of years. They tanked and cheated, scapegoated Dean Bailey, and were found guilty but were hit with a suspended fine; real wet lettuce leaf stuff. Quite frankly they should be good given how many very high draft picks they've had over the years and the leg up they've been given. Compare that to how we built our dynasty; chalk and cheese.
I cant stand Melbourne as a club. No problem with how they play, their talent etc. right now. Fully deserve to be premiers and favourites again this year. But they've been a fair weather bunch Demon supporters for a looooong time. The biggest smart arses with any sniff of success and then not interested in football when they're on the down. Hawthorn fans very similar. Must be that preppy, higher income thing.
Trust me, I ain't losing sleep over what the media say, especially when I refuse to fund the Murdoch Empire so the only coverage I know of at Fox comes from comments here.
I just reckon the post 2017 flag commentary was a bit, shall we say, sh!t. More of a reflection on the journos than anyone else really, I'm sure the other clubs were looking at Richmond and trying to work out how we smacked Adelaide, and Richmond would just have been grinning like a Cheshire Cat.
The journos do just look like numpties when they don't give respect after a team wins a flag, I'm not sure if they were expecting Richmond to return to the wilderness after 1 flag after the 2017 Grand Final, but in their opinions they were missing just how effective a lot of the players beyond the 4 big stars were.
A bit more respect would have been nice . . . then again, 3 flags is even nicer.
DS
Could not disagree more. We finished the H&A season half a game behind the Crows and behind Geelong on percentage. We smacked all 3 teams we played in the finals (including Crows and Geelong) by an average margin of 7.5 goals. We finished the season with 18 wins and 7 losses; best record of any team that year.
Not sure how say anyone could claim we weren't the best team.
The Crows beat us in Adelaide at the start of May after both sides had begun 5-0. After that game, they won 11 of 19 for the rest of the year. We won 14, and of the 5 we lost, 3 were by less than a kick (2 of which you could argue we were robbed) and 1 was by 2-3 goals away to a top-4 side with the biggest home ground advantage in the comp, when we played *smile*. We finished the regular season third, half a game behind the Crows and Cats - both of whom beat us at their home grounds, but neither of whom we got to play at ours. We then beat the other 3 top-4 sides in September by 51, 36 and 48. If we weren't the best team in the comp, who the hell was?
We were head and shoulders the best team in the comp, as we were for the next 3 years. Most acknowledged us as the best by pretty early in 2018.
Only played 1 and 2 away. If we'd had return games we might have finished top.Worth remembering in 2017 we were playing with one key forward, a wing as a second ruck and playing some weird game style where we got smashed in clearance and then got the ball back. Would have been a brave pundit to call a dynasty.
Best home and away team I should have said. No way we were that, finished third, didn't beat 1 and 2, got belted by Adelaide and St Kilda and lost a couple of unloseable games through sheer stupidity.
Best home and away team is meaningless. Richmond was the best team. Period.
Worth remembering in 2017 we were playing with one key forward, a wing as a second ruck and playing some weird game style where we got smashed in clearance and then got the ball back. Would have been a brave pundit to call a dynasty.
Be an even braver pundit to call Melbourne a dynasty after 1 flag, not that they are but there is talk that this could be the start of a dynasty.
Let's just say that the difference between the Richmond 2017 and Melbourne 2021 teams is not a large as the difference in the hype and comments about each team following the winning a flag after decades of mediocrity.
The talk of a possible dynasty for Melbourne after 2021 is not unreasonable, they're bloody good.
But talk of the worst premiership team and virtually nothing on whether we could get more flags after 2017, yeah, looks pretty silly now.
DS
