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Round 1 (2022) - other games
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Geez Robbo is a dumbass.
Asks if Dusty can get to Petraccas levels, and then talks about how Petracca just allow him to sit off the contest. No coach has allowed Dusty to do that since about 2012 and since then he's won a Brownlow (in the greatest individual season of all time) and 3 Normies.
Come back once Petracca gets the same sort of attention as Dusty does (and he may well get the same results as he is an outstanding player).
Petracca is clearly the closest thing to Dusty in the comp (and I text a number of my mates about that same thing during the game) but to claim he's that far ahead of Dusty yet the attention they get from the other teams is like chalk and cheese is nothing short of offensive for the great man.
I don't like Melbourne but I can't hate players like Trac, Gawn or Oliver. They just put in contest after contest and to the untrained they might look a bit like front runners but they genuinely bust a gut and that's why they always look like they are ahead of the play.
Doggies, nfi what they are doing. Not enough talent and miss too many targets.
Doggies, nfi what they are doing. Not enough talent and miss too many targets.
This is spot on Spook. I don't mind this particular Melbourne team; can't criticise the way they play. They are pretty good to watch. But I can't stand them as a club. They've been spoon fed by the AFL for years; even had the AFL bankroll a "saviour" coach for a couple of years. They tanked and cheated, scapegoated Dean Bailey, and were found guilty but were hit with a suspended fine; real wet lettuce leaf stuff
. Quite frankly they should be good given how many very high draft picks they've had over the years and the leg up they've been given. Compare that to how we built our dynasty; chalk and cheese.Yeah I don't know ezy. Morris is a germ but its his job to report on AFL news. I'm not sure why, if he has cultivated a source at the Bulldogs, he would not report the information provided by the source. There are clearly issues at the Dogs; the main one seems to be a person in the inner sanctum who dislikes Bevo and is trying to white ant him.
I find the PRE narrative that "we get no respect" pretty tiresome as well to be fair. When people did praise us it was seen by us as "grudging" and when the praised others it was seen as "oh how unfair, they praise them but not us". It's just confirmation bias.
I enjoy watching them play, when they were on and running over the top of the Dogs last night it was very good footy to watch. I'd add Langdon in there too, probably the best wingman in the comp right now. Melbournes challenge is going to be when they lose a number of players (and Salem may be the 1st one, I though the lack of ice and crutches was a bit worrying for him).
The Dogs talls are poor (other than Naughton). They have drafted talls but if JUH cannot get a game ahead of Schache then it doesn't bode well for a Pick 1 in the draft. Schache is awful. Add to that in defence, Gardner, Cordy are average at best and Stef Martin probably has a beard like Gandolf now and they are in for a world of hurt with those talls. Their midfield will keep them in games, as their clearance game is outstanding, but I can't see them winning any premierships without some improvements in their talls.
Would be slightly humourous if Lachie Hunter was the source.
It is good to give it to the media boys club but not sure this was an issue to bring out the bazooka. Even Bevo shuffling the team around pre-game was on the embarrassing side.
Exactly, he has a source in the club, he uses it, that's his job. His story was right.
Bevo, tighten up the ship mate - that's on you and the club if someone is leaking. Bevo can stand up for his club but he overplayed his hand, telling Morris to get out and then having to skulk out himself. A bluff that failed. Now that was embarrassing.
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Yeah spot on about Langdon. He was the best player in the first quarter by a mile.
Then Shacky marks the ball 20m out and plays on only to get caught holding the ball. He was barely sighted all game.
Agree Easy. I loved it. Had quite a chuckle at Bevo losing his sh!t. Yes he could have been more eloquent but it was well directed.
Was disappointed but not surprised at the Fox (and broader AFL journos) quickly circling the wagons and defending their guy.
Bevo made reference to the potential impacts on mental health. The Fox nuffies quickly discounted that but there could be any number of people that Bevo was referring to in that moment. Himself, the player, other club personnel. But in their rush to defend their bloke they quickly discounted Bevo's assertion.
The media has consistently rushed to the bottom to get the story first and damn the consequences. Won't surprise me if we see this sort of outburst a bit more often.
I would almost go as far to say that single incident cost the Dogs the game. They had all the momentum and another goal, which it clearly should have been, would have given them a 4 goal lead I believe. He either should have got it on quickly, or went back and slotted the goal himself. But he hesitated and lost the ball. It stopped the rot for Melbourne and they went on to kick the next run of goals either side of half time.
That play was Schache is a nutshell. He is so hesitant as a footballer; seems so timid. Looks scared to make a mistake. Apart from that incident in the 3rd he got outmuscled by the winger Ed Langdon in a marking contest at full forward when he clearly had front position. The ball hit the deck and Langdon ran it out under no pressure from Schache. Then later in that quarter he was deep in defence and "Rhys Stanleyed" a simple mark which lead to another Melbourne goal.
He's not up to it.
I feel bad for the lad, he keeps getting games so he must be showing something but it ain't translating in primetime.
and / or Barrett. He is so irrelevant these days though no one realises he is still around
The same people who have no problems with privatising the profits and socialising the losses in the business world.
Cant stand them but Melbourne are a very good team at the peak of there powers. The defence is going to take a lot of getting through. Langdon key to that the way he gets back and helps.
On the Beveridge/Morris saga. If Leysy had to lay blame it would be 100% Beveridge and none to Morris.
Can't stand most AFL media but can't think of one point that Beveridge made that actually made sense. If he wanted to have a dig at Morris/media he chose a very poor point to make it on.
The fact he went to the effort of temporarily changing the naming of his team over something as innocuous as one player being named in the media as dropped, raises question marks if his focus is where it should be.
On the Beveridge/Morris saga. If Leysy had to lay blame it would be 100% Beveridge and none to Morris.
Can't stand most AFL media but can't think of one point that Beveridge made that actually made sense. If he wanted to have a dig at Morris/media he chose a very poor point to make it on.
The fact he went to the effort of temporarily changing the naming of his team over something as innocuous as one player being named in the media as dropped, raises question marks if his focus is where it should be.
It's interesting, the Dees have had 70 odd years of failure, they have a small membership base (understandable given the lack of success) and people decry them assistance?This is spot on Spook. I don't mind this particular Melbourne team; can't criticise the way they play. They are pretty good to watch. But I can't stand them as a club. They've been spoon fed by the AFL for years; even had the AFL bankroll a "saviour" coach for a couple of years. They tanked and cheated, scapegoated Dean Bailey, and were found guilty but were hit with a suspended fine; real wet lettuce leaf stuff
The AFL is a socialist organisation, Richmond can only be powerful if the AFL exists. It only exists if the less well supported and therefore less financially stable clubs get a leg up.
This messaging regarding the tigers never getting any help and being victims who can't catch a break is ridiculous.
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No. They were lucky to be that close initially. They've got some of the worst talls in the AFL. Keath & Cordy the worst KD pair in the comp. Schache should be playing VFL. Weightman is their Rohan. Libba is done. Crumples is a cat. Daniels overrated as is Hunter.
They are coached to cheat, up there with Geelong as the worst stagers and chuckers.
And who were they missing?
Melb dominated, the scorebaord flattered footscray.
Yeah, don't really agree.
In 2017 we smacked the best team going around by 40 odd points in the Grand Final. Everyone thought Adelaide would win the GF, and it wasn't that Adelaide had a bad day, we were just better. And, that was after we won our other 2 finals with withering blows to bury Geelong and GWS, who were both damned good football teams. Richmond were the best team in 2017 in the finals, and that's what matters.
The response?
Worst team to win a flag. Without our 4 stars we would be useless (yeah, take 4 players of the calibre of Martin, Cotchin, Rance and Reiwoldt out of any team and see how they go). They will not win another etc.
Yes, there was a lot of support for Richmond in the press at the time. It was seen as a fairy tale flag to some extent, but we all know fairy tales are short stories. Respect? Yeah, not much.
Melbourne are clearly the standard at the moment, not surprising really, they are reigning premiers. We were reigning premiers in 2018 and it took about half a season for the media to wake up and realise we were the new standard. Melbourne deserve respect, they have earned it, especially after the structural issues on field in 2018 were exposed (defence not good enough) and fixed.
The irony is that, after finishing 12th in 2021, we seem to get more respect now than we did in early 2018 as reigning premiers. The media are now saying you can't write off Richmond, too good to ignore etc. Just would have been nice to get a little more respect after the 2017 finals and not be labelled the worst team ever to win a flag.
Just on the Bevo thing, I really don't have an issue with paying out on journos who constantly pay out on others. But the best strategy Bevo could have with Morris (apart from finding the leak at the club and having them summarily dismissed) is to give him nothing - Morris asks a question, answer is yes or no without any detail. Everyone knows if Morris asks a question you will get nothing, it will be a waste of time.
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