Richmond 2017 AFL Premiers

[year of the tiger]

2000 Essendon by 125, 45 and 60. - #1.
2001 Brisbane by 32, 68 and 26.
2002 Brisbane by 71, 56 and 9.
2004 Port Adelaide by 55, 6 and 40.
2008 Hawthorn by 51, 54 and 26.
2009 Geelong by 14, 73 and 12.
2010 Collingwood by 62, 41 and 56 - would have been #2 except for the drawn Grand Final.
2011 Geelong by 31, 48 and 38.
2012 Sydney by 29, 26 and 10.
2013 Hawthorn by 54, 5 and 15.
2017 Richmond by 51, 36 and 48. - #2.

Might need to do some more comparisons with the 2001 bears +136 and Hawks 2008 +131 teams of that era to see how they stack up to the tiger 2017 vintage + 135 . I would love the Tigers to build that sought of dinasty that those teams enjoyed.

 

[TigerForce]

Premiership coach (;D) Damien Hardwick says the game plan will be revamped for 2018. I'll be looking forward to watching those 'minnows' (;D) catch us.

 

[easy_tiger]

I was having a beer (well, a french champagne actually) with a very high ranking collingwood official today.

he told me some stuff I cant repeat,

but what I can repeat is, he reckons Peggy ONeal is one of the smartest, nicest people in footy.

yay Peggy

 

[Blind Turn]

I was having a beer (well, a french champagne actually) with a very high ranking collingwood official today.

he told me some stuff I cant repeat,

but what I can repeat is, he reckons Peggy ONeal is one of the smartest, nicest people in footy.

yay Peggy

A Richmond and Collingwood supporter drinking champagne together?
I knew you were lying at the drinking together part. You might have got away with your bulls#it story if you hadn't thrown in the Champagne bit

 

[Bullarto Tiger]

I was having a beer (well, a french champagne actually) with a very high ranking collingwood official today.

he told me some stuff I cant repeat,

but what I can repeat is, he reckons Peggy ONeal is one of the smartest, nicest people in footy.

yay Peggy

Well, then Easy, a hard working man who tills the land drinking champagne ... not sure what to make of that. But good luck to you!

 

[jb03]

I was having a beer (well, a french champagne actually) with a very high ranking collingwood official today.

he told me some stuff I cant repeat,

but what I can repeat is, he reckons Peggy ONeal is one of the smartest, nicest people in footy.

yay Peggy

Bit hard to know what is the most disappointing aspect of that story - the drinking of champagne or the fraternising with a Collingwood official

 

[TigerMasochist]

Interesting question and I have wondered about how often the premiership team has beaten the other three in the top four in the finals and by how much.
The current system started in 2000.
Essendon did it in the first year with margins of 125, 45 and 60 points.
Since then, no-one has done it with a minimum margin as high as 36 like Richmond did this year.

The system lends itself well to the possibility of the premiership team having to play the other three of the top four during the finals, and it has happened, with them beating all three and not losing a final 11 times in the 18 years since.

2000 Essendon by 125, 45 and 60. - #1.
2001 Brisbane by 32, 68 and 26.
2002 Brisbane by 71, 56 and 9.
2004 Port Adelaide by 55, 6 and 40.
2008 Hawthorn by 51, 54 and 26.
2009 Geelong by 14, 73 and 12.
2010 Collingwood by 62, 41 and 56 - would have been #2 except for the drawn Grand Final.
2011 Geelong by 31, 48 and 38.
2012 Sydney by 29, 26 and 10.
2013 Hawthorn by 54, 5 and 15.
2017 Richmond by 51, 36 and 48. - #2.

Bit surprising considering these games were played between the top four finalists that there was rarely a close game among them. Of 34 games played only eight margins were less than four goals while 15 were by 8 goals or more.

 

[TOT70]

Bit surprising considering these games were played between the top four finalists that there was rarely a close game among them. Of 34 games played only eight margins were less than four goals while 15 were by 8 goals or more.

Strong evidence to suggest that none of these Premiers beat anyone good.

 

[year of the tiger]

Bit surprising considering these games were played between the top four finalists that there was rarely a close game among them. Of 34 games played only eight margins were less than four goals while 15 were by 8 goals or more.

TM - you may need to look at the whole dataset of matches to come to any meaningful conclusions on that one. The above list only looks at when a team wins in straight sets against other top 4 teams - which happens more than I thought but just confirms that you need to be in the top 4 to win it - statistically speaking.

 

[TigerMasochist]

TM - you may need to look at the whole dataset of matches to come to any meaningful conclusions on that one. The above list only looks at when a team wins in straight sets against other top 4 teams - which happens more than I thought but just confirms that you need to be in the top 4 to win it - statistically speaking.

Wasn't actually looking for trends or conclusions yott, just commenting that there seemed to be a lot more blow out finals than close ones between the top four teams of the seasons listed.

Considering the finals system under discussion only started in 2000 and concerned the premiers beating the other 3 top four sides during the finals series, I don't think there'd be any more data to peruse.
Reading up too much data usually means you just end up with multi coloured graph codes n pie charts that explain nothing n mean even less anyway, but it always good to have all this information available just in case anyway.

 

[jb03]

Strong evidence to suggest that none of these Premiers beat anyone good.

;D

Although not many won the flag again the following year.

 

[easy_tiger]

You might have got away with your bulls#it story if you hadn't thrown in the Champagne bit

Well, then Easy, a hard working man who tills the land drinking champagne ... not sure what to make of that. But good luck to you!

Bit hard to know what is the most disappointing aspect of that story - the drinking of champagne or the fraternising with a Collingwood official

Ive drank nothing but champagne and talked footy with anyone who stands still since the prelim

 

[TigerMasochist]

Strong evidence to suggest that none of these Premiers beat anyone good.

Huh! :shakehead. Got a feeling that most of the teams in that grouping played multiple years of finals during that time period, there's a few teams might also have gone on to win multiple flags. Or perhaps I should've just noticed the tongue firmly planted in cheek.

 

[Blind Turn]

Ive drank nothing but champagne and talked footy with anyone who stands still since the prelim

Shame on you.
The great Jack Dyer hated Collingwood so much he refused to own a black and white t.v set.
Reckon he might have been partial to the odd glass of Spewmanti though!

 

[easy_tiger]

Shame on you.
The great Jack Dyer hated Collingwood so much he refused to own a black and white t.v set.
Reckon he might have been partial to the odd glass of Spewmanti though!

funny enough Ive never really hated collingwood like I hate essendon and carlton.

and the high ranking collingwood official told me

'most collingwood people I know were barracking for the Tigers in the grand final while most Essendon and Carlton people I know were barracking for the Crows'

Im not saying I'd let my sons marry Collingwood girls or anything like that, just that I dont really have a hatred for collingwood. I never really have. :don't know

Plus, the Collingwood bloke was shouting $80 bottles of french bubbly.

another funny thing is, at this gig, I was wearing my tiger jumper and after a few champas and we were pretty friendly,

collingwood big man goes

'I should have worn my Collingwood jumper'

and deadpan, I go

'why would you have done that? your not premiers'

It was to be my final glass of $80 champagne.

 

[Blind Turn]

funny enough Ive never really hated collingwood like I hate essendon and carlton.

and the high ranking collingwood official told me

'most collingwood people I know were barracking for the Tigers in the grand final while most Essendon and Carlton people I know were barracking for the Crows'

Im not saying I'd let my sons marry Collingwood girls or anything like that, just that I dont really have a hatred for collingwood. I never really have. :don't know

Plus, the Collingwood bloke was shouting $80 bottles of french bubbly.

another funny thing is, at this gig, I was wearing my tiger jumper and after a few champas and we were pretty friendly,

collingwood big man goes

'I should have worn my Collingwood jumper'

and deadpan, I go

'why would you have done that? your not premiers'

It was to be my final glass of $80 champagne.

Ah alcohol. The great leveller.
Without it we'd have no friends and the worlds population growth would go into deficit.
And even worse the Richmond grog squad would cease to exist

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

I was just watching a bit of the Adelaide test. During a gap in the commentary I heard a section of the crowd yell: “Yellow and black! Oh we’re from Tigerland!”

Howzat, Crows!

 

[TigerMad]

I was just watching a bit of the Adelaide test. During a gap in the commentary I heard a section of the crowd yell: “Yellow and black! Oh we’re from Tigerland!”

Howzat, Crows!

Ha Ha.

I was just saying to my wife that it would be hilarious if the Barmy Army sang the Richmond theme song.
Been keeping an eye out the Richmond colours in the crowd.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Is that in physical shops anywhere? The local JB Hifi doesn't have it only the finals pack.

It landed at JB today, last day of their 20% off DVD sale...

 

[mjb]

Desperately unlucky Adelaide, how were they to know that the Grand Final would be played at the MCG for the first time in history.