Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish

[zippadeee]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

You wouldn't be rapt to find another Conca ?

I've always gone with that we should've got Caddy/Heppell or Darling.
I'm I happy with getting another Conca? No
We need some key tall defenders.
I'm not 100% convinced that Conca was our best option with our 1st pick last year.
Will he be good? I think he showed enough in some games that he is a smart footballer, but in others he was off the pace of the game and did struggle with his decision making.

 

[Baloo]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

So you don't rate Conca as a player who will make it ?

 

[Disco08]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

I'm not being negative, if you ask anyone who is currently better, heppell would win hands down.

Of course, but they're only one year into their careers and Conca hasn't even had a preseason yet. By saying Conca will never be as good as Heppell you're being very negative. Like I said though, that's how you roll so it's fine.

 

[Big Cat Lover]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

I've always gone with that we should've got Caddy/Heppell or Darling.
I'm I happy with getting another Conca? No
We need some key tall defenders.I'm not 100% convinced that Conca was our best option with our 1st pick last year.
Will he be good? I think he showed enough in some games that he is a smart footballer, but in others he was off the pace of the game and did struggle with his decision making.

This is just silly. We have Rance/Post/Astbury/Grimes/McGuane as KD's. Rance is looking an excellent prospect as is Grimes. Astbury & Post have shown promise and need a chance to cement a spot. McGuane is, well McGuane. I don't see the point in using a 1st round pick on another KD.

We lack on ball depth and really need to focus on building this IMO. We should be pulling the trigger on 2 mids with our first 2 picks.

 

[JR8]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Of course, but they're only one year into their careers and Conca hasn't even had a preseason yet. By saying Conca will never be as good as Heppell you're being very negative. Like I said though, that's how you roll so it's fine.

Yeah zippadee doodah would be great value at parties. :

 

[zippadeee]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

This is just silly. We have Rance/Post/Astbury/Grimes/McGuane as KD's. Rance is looking an excellent prospect as is Grimes. Astbury & Post have shown promise and need a chance to cement a spot. McGuane is, well McGuane. I don't see the point in using a 1st round pick on another KD.

We lack on ball depth and really need to focus on building this IMO. We should be pulling the trigger on 2 mids with our first 2 picks.

I'm the total opposite, I reckon our midfield is ok, Cotchin, Martin, lids & Foley are very good
But the defense besides Rance, I still we lack a Harry Taylor type.
Ashbury really struggled last year
Mcguane vomit
Grimes Looks good, but so did Thursfield.
Post. Like post, must improve more next year

My 1st pick would be the kid in the paper today the 195cm/80kg defender.
And with the next picks more midfielders, but again bigger then 180cm

 

[Sintiger]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

I'm the total opposite, I reckon our midfield is ok, Cotchin, Martin, lids & Foley are very good
But the defense besides Rance, I still we lack a Harry Taylor type.
Ashbury really struggled last year
Mcguane vomit
Grimes Looks good, but so did Thursfield.
Post. Like post, must improve more next year

My 1st pick would be the kid in the paper today the 195cm/80kg defender.
And with the next picks more midfielders, but again bigger then 180cm

I would be very disappointed if we used our first pick on a key defender , we have enough on our list . Lets get one late in the draft or in the rookie draft but we need midfield depth more than anything , the better teams have 6-7 quality players rotating these days . Another Reece Conca at 15 would be fine with me .

 

[gustiger12]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

I would be very disappointed if we used our first pick on a key defender , we have enough on our list . Lets get one late in the draft or in the rookie draft but we need midfield depth more than anything , the better teams have 6-7 quality players rotating these days . Another Reece Conca at 15 would be fine with me .

Agree Sinbad.

Too develop into a really good side we need midfield depth. We can still use probably another KPD as well, but midfield must be a priority.

 

[K3]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

I would be rapt to get another 'Conaca' in this draft. Heck, even two more with our first two picks.

Smart, good speed and very good skills. I am certainly in the 'we need more mid-fielders' boat.

go the Conca-nator!

 

[Eat the rich]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

I'm not being negative, if you ask anyone who is currently better, heppell would win hands down.
We all want improvement in all our players, but you can't rate or comment on someone being bias.
I love Richmond, I rate our players,
If we are able to find another Batchelor or Grimes I would be Rapt!

I agree Heppell looks a very good player. He was one of my favourites from last years draft, and I was ( previously leaked info on Conca tempered this) gob smacked when we didn't call his name at our pick. I have Heppell shading Conca on this years performances.
However, right from the first game against Carlton, I saw what this kid has the potential to do, and I liked it a lot. A couple of times he ran it out of defence taking on 2 or 3 defenders, with an innate ability to wrong foot opponents, and the confidence to do it. As the season wore on low fitness base and the rigours of AFL probably took their toll, but with a big preseason, I hope Reece will produce some great games in 2012, and balance the equation. If rumours were true, EFC were well into him as their pick.

Now logically, if you are rapted with the level Batch and Grimes played to this year, you have to ask yourself is Heppell such an upgrade on batchelor on that HBF that you would forgo the opportunity to have both Conca and Batchelor in the same draft? OK we haven't seen Ariel Steinberg (EFC pick 31) play yet, he may be a gun, but at the moment Batch has the runs on the board, and I thought he had a great year for someone who didn't feature prominently at all in the Phantom drafts. Great defensive application, and what I was really impressed with was his footskills. Seems to be the right type of bloke to have at the club too.
Even if Heppell pushes into the midfield, I would think he would be more out than in, and EFC still need a classy inside mid.
We add another classy mid @ 15 this year, and best available at 26 and our list is starting to look nicely balanced. Getting Houli last year from them was a 12 point play by RFC. Grabbing Helbig with the pick we offered them for Houli was even sweeter. Dodoro should change his name to Dudoro.

I think Heppell likes the ball coming to him. I think Conca likes to run and carry, and I can't wait to see him tearing up the 'G next year, involved in some of the best passages of play Tigers supporters have seen in decades.

 

[tigerdave]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

To me Conca has a little bit of Jimmy Bartel in him.No frill's sort of player who love's the rough and tumble and has that polished edge about him.Sure, he's going to make mistakes but he'll compliment the likes of Martin,Cotchin and Foley in the middle with his hard nosed attitude.

 

[Baloo]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

To me Conca has a little bit of Jimmy Bartel in him.No frill's sort of player who love's the rough and tumble and has that polished edge about him.Sure, he's going to make mistakes but he'll compliment the likes of Martin,Cotchin and Foley in the middle with his hard nosed attitude.

Agree with that. When thinking of our future premiership winning midfield would like look, I always had the Squirrel down as the Bartel type.

 

[tigerdave]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Agree with that. When thinking of our future premiership winning midfield would like look, I always had the Squirrel down as the Bartel type.

Yep, the odd smack in the mouth won't hurt the Squirrel Baloo!

 

[RedanTiger]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

And so it continues on PRE.

Zip posts that

if you ask anyone who is currently better, heppell would win hands down.

and gets "verballed"

So you don't rate Conca as a player who will make it ?

and

By saying Conca will never be as good as Heppell you're being very negative.

And then Eat the Rich continues with the lie that if Heppell was drafted then you couldn't draft Batchelor.
I like Batchelor as well but I don't use him as cover to favour Conca over Heppell at this time.

 

[Rfc4Ever]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

And so it continues on PRE.

Zip posts that and gets "verballed"

As long as the Squirrel doesn't get Gerbilled we'll be right.

 

[Super9Nova]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Why is Heppell like Fevola??
Heppell could've fitted the same criteria, what ever that is meant mean.
Yeah! Heppell dosent fit our culture..

Simplifying it a bit their zippinator. There must be reasons we bypassed Heppell for Conca, given they're both ball players. I don't think it's that Heppell didn't fit, its that Conca fitted better. Thats the conclusion I'm drawing from the pick. I'd say that Conca stacked up better with criteria related to winning a flag, where mental approach is considered along with skill and toughness. Not saying Heppell is deficient in those areas, but that the recruiting staff preferred Conca.

 

[Disco08]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

And so it continues on PRE.

Actually Redan, I was replying to Zip's assertion that Conca's not going to be as good as Heppell. If you look closely I agreed with the quote of his that you're suggesting I "verballed" him (lol) for.

 

[Baloo]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Zip posts that and gets "verballed"and

Selective quoting there Redan that really didn't reflect what my question to Zip was in relation too.

Here it is again. Can you see how my question has nothing to do with comparisons to Heppell ?

If we are able to find another Batchelor or Grimes I would be Rapt!

You wouldn't be rapt to find another Conca ?

I'm I happy with getting another Conca? No

So you don't rate Conca as a player who will make it ?

Where is this "verballing" ?

 

[RedanTiger]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Selective quoting there Baloo that really didn't reflect what Zip posted.

I'm I happy with getting another Conca? No
We need some key tall defenders.

Zip obviously prefers some tall defenders. His opinion.
You then ask whether he "rates Conca as a player who will make it" when he'd already posted that Conca will be a good player.

 

[Baloo]

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Going around in circles but.......

Zips mentioned being wrapped to get another Batch but not Conca. Batch isn't a tall defender.

My question was fair IMHO.

BTW, a definition of verballing would be handy for future reference.