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Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish
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Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
Good question but to a degree not relevant. The award is based on the form of the given year - not the future. Otherwise Rioli would have comfortably beaten Palmer. And Martin may have won if not ineligible.
To answer the question I would take him over Rockliff, Scully and perhaps Trengove.
akhoury said:
Good question but to a degree not relevant. The award is based on the form of the given year - not the future. Otherwise Rioli would have comfortably beaten Palmer. And Martin may have won if not ineligible.
To answer the question I would take him over Rockliff, Scully and perhaps Trengove.
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
I think conca is exactly what we needed skill and more skill in the midfield who has composure unlike tuck, jackson, edwards, white, the list goes on...
On Heppell, we have Batch, lids, newy and houli who play that role and Dea looks likely too.....then we have connors and the rookie o'reilly who "maybe" could step up 2 play that role but the point im making here is theres like half a dozen options there who can play as a small back then u have the talls, grimes, rance, moore, post etc to take the other spots so choosing a mid was the way 2 go as will this coming draft with our pic 14, we just need more mids to take the heat off cotchin and martin.
So in view conca and batch were 2 players who have helped fill holes with our 1st two pics....
GoodOne said:
I think conca is exactly what we needed skill and more skill in the midfield who has composure unlike tuck, jackson, edwards, white, the list goes on...
On Heppell, we have Batch, lids, newy and houli who play that role and Dea looks likely too.....then we have connors and the rookie o'reilly who "maybe" could step up 2 play that role but the point im making here is theres like half a dozen options there who can play as a small back then u have the talls, grimes, rance, moore, post etc to take the other spots so choosing a mid was the way 2 go as will this coming draft with our pic 14, we just need more mids to take the heat off cotchin and martin.
So in view conca and batch were 2 players who have helped fill holes with our 1st two pics....
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
ur not serious he is as soft as butter, he prances around packs for the easy ball....well ive seen him bout 8 times live and many times on the TV as i did yesterday and avoids body contact at will....
thats the only thing i question with him his attack and hardness in the contest....
And im not sure he will just slip into the midfield if he aint willing to win his own ball, time will tell though....
Look maybe as winger as i see him more as an outside player but cant see him being starting center!
GoodOne said:
ur not serious he is as soft as butter, he prances around packs for the easy ball....well ive seen him bout 8 times live and many times on the TV as i did yesterday and avoids body contact at will....
thats the only thing i question with him his attack and hardness in the contest....
And im not sure he will just slip into the midfield if he aint willing to win his own ball, time will tell though....
Look maybe as winger as i see him more as an outside player but cant see him being starting center!
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
He's from a different draft is he not? Same one as Rockliff. 2008. Would have been happy with him instead of Post though. He's the type we need to start nailing with 2nd rounders onwards. Not an out and out gun but a very good footballer nonetheless.
akhoury said:
He's from a different draft is he not? Same one as Rockliff. 2008. Would have been happy with him instead of Post though. He's the type we need to start nailing with 2nd rounders onwards. Not an out and out gun but a very good footballer nonetheless.
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
Riolis done what exactly since being drafted? I know the kids a massive talent but all you see from him at the moment is one or two flashy things a game and then goes missing for the next 100 minutes.
How the media can go so gaga over every little thing he does has me bemused, the kids not even that good of a kick anyway.
Lets not even get into those flimsy hamstrings aswell.
jb03 said:
Riolis done what exactly since being drafted? I know the kids a massive talent but all you see from him at the moment is one or two flashy things a game and then goes missing for the next 100 minutes.
How the media can go so gaga over every little thing he does has me bemused, the kids not even that good of a kick anyway.
Lets not even get into those flimsy hamstrings aswell.
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
The more I see Heppell the more he reminds me of a young Joel Bowden, that's certainly no disrespect because Joel was elite in his own right. Comparing both Shuey and Heppell on the weekend, I would certainly say that Shuey is the tough hard as nails, bullocking player who is destined for the midfield. Heppell still needs to show more aggression when winning the contested ball in pack situations and also needs to show a bit more composure in heavy traffic. On many occasions this year he's rushed kicks in the clinches when he could have perhaps assessed his options a little better. I certainly wouldn't write him off completely as an on-baller because there's a lot to work with but at this stage he's behind Gaff, Conca and Caddy as far as midfield potential is concerned.
AstuteTiger said:
The more I see Heppell the more he reminds me of a young Joel Bowden, that's certainly no disrespect because Joel was elite in his own right. Comparing both Shuey and Heppell on the weekend, I would certainly say that Shuey is the tough hard as nails, bullocking player who is destined for the midfield. Heppell still needs to show more aggression when winning the contested ball in pack situations and also needs to show a bit more composure in heavy traffic. On many occasions this year he's rushed kicks in the clinches when he could have perhaps assessed his options a little better. I certainly wouldn't write him off completely as an on-baller because there's a lot to work with but at this stage he's behind Gaff, Conca and Caddy as far as midfield potential is concerned.
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
Hard to say, Harvey severely mistreated Palmer this year not giving him any game time even though they were screaming out for midfielders due to there injuries to there midfielders.
If it came down to it though I would take Rioli purely and simply on the fact that you never know what the kid is going to do at any given time, consistency is Rioli's big problem, when played as a midfielder he doesn't get enough touches and when played as that small forward he goes missing for large chunks of games.
jb03 said:
Hard to say, Harvey severely mistreated Palmer this year not giving him any game time even though they were screaming out for midfielders due to there injuries to there midfielders.
If it came down to it though I would take Rioli purely and simply on the fact that you never know what the kid is going to do at any given time, consistency is Rioli's big problem, when played as a midfielder he doesn't get enough touches and when played as that small forward he goes missing for large chunks of games.
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
Well I must misunderstand the concept of the contested ball then. More contested ball than our own Conca per game this year (and that's no disrespect to Conca, he has been excellent in that regard this year). Heppell has already played some games in the middle this year and acquitted himself quite well. But as I said, you can't ask a first year player to play inside all year. His role has obviously been to play more outside than inside.
PS I think I'll finish up here, some might start mistaking me for a closet Essendon supporter. ;D
AstuteTiger said:
Well I must misunderstand the concept of the contested ball then. More contested ball than our own Conca per game this year (and that's no disrespect to Conca, he has been excellent in that regard this year). Heppell has already played some games in the middle this year and acquitted himself quite well. But as I said, you can't ask a first year player to play inside all year. His role has obviously been to play more outside than inside.
PS I think I'll finish up here, some might start mistaking me for a closet Essendon supporter. ;D
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
Leysys said it before but in his opinion Heppell has huge similarities to Scott Pendlebury.
Leysys said it before but in his opinion Heppell has huge similarities to Scott Pendlebury.
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
Getting to Pendlebury's level is obviously a stretch, as it is to all but a couple in the game.
Think Heppells strengths are very similar to Pendlebury's though and that he will end up at an extemely high level as a midfielder down the track.
Getting to Pendlebury's level is obviously a stretch, as it is to all but a couple in the game.
Think Heppells strengths are very similar to Pendlebury's though and that he will end up at an extemely high level as a midfielder down the track.
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca
I just cant see it happening.
The kids a talent don't get me wrong, and I would have to disagree with you about there similar strengths.
Pendlebury is excellent by foot and hand under pressure, is a great contested mark, his awareness and vision is the best I have seen for quite some time, is a clearance machine and barely ever goes to ground. And at 191CM he is a rare breed of a midfielder.
I'd say Heppell is the exact opposite of that, from what I have seen his disposal by hand and foot when under pressure is highly suspect, is not great in the air with the contested ball and constantly goes to ground while skirting the packs for a kick.
The only similarities I can find between the two are possibly there physical features, and even then it's a stretch.
Leysy Days said:
I just cant see it happening.
The kids a talent don't get me wrong, and I would have to disagree with you about there similar strengths.
Pendlebury is excellent by foot and hand under pressure, is a great contested mark, his awareness and vision is the best I have seen for quite some time, is a clearance machine and barely ever goes to ground. And at 191CM he is a rare breed of a midfielder.
I'd say Heppell is the exact opposite of that, from what I have seen his disposal by hand and foot when under pressure is highly suspect, is not great in the air with the contested ball and constantly goes to ground while skirting the packs for a kick.
The only similarities I can find between the two are possibly there physical features, and even then it's a stretch.
