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Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish

Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Space between heppell and Conca is not big enough to be a worry.
I see this as a which super model would you prefer type question. No-ones a loser

Unlike, dare I say, Tambling and anybody else that was selected after him.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

We can debate Heppell v Conca forever but to be honest I don't see the point . Heppell is an Essendon player and Conca plays for Richmond now .

My view on Conca is that once he is really fit he will be an accumulator with good skills and a high reliability factor . He is not a burst player , at least not from what I have seen so far . To me he is the type of player we won't see too often in the highlight reels but when we see the stats he will have had 25 possessions just doing his job really well .

There is nothing wrong with that at all . He is going to be a very good player for us imo.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

jb03 said:
The notion that Heppell played loose man in defence is just wrong. May win Essendon's B&F which is an amazing achievement.

Jury is still obviously out and in the long run we may be applauding a coup but the early call is that we got it wrong. I think Richmond supporters find it hard to admit fault of the club.

I reckon Heppell is a ripper. The club may have gotten it 'wrong' based on info re his health.
Unfortunately it was Conca who finished the year in worse shape physically.

I'm happy with Conca but it's really a little early to tell on any players drafted last year.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

We have very few really decent senior players on our list....
When Tuck goes (well he virtually already is) he will be easily replaced by a Dustin Martin, Cotchin etc. etc.
When Moore wears out in a few years he will be easily replaced by a Grimes, Rance type
When Newman goes in 3 or 4 years Batchelor will be primed at 23 years old
When Jake King leaves in 3 years hopefully Helbig is rocking n rolling but I think hr could be a decent midfielder.
And Conca will be ready to take over Foley's role if Foley struggles to hit 30 with a broken down body.
If Foley stays healthy we have smooth moving wingman who doesn't mind getting dirty a la Montagna.
As long as we just keep picking up solid draft picks over the next 3 years we will quickly rise to top 4 standard (injuries aside) because we already have 4 maybe 5 future All Australians who are all young.... Deledio, Cotchin, Riewoldt, Martin and Vickery. We're stacked with elite young talent. We just have to surround them.

Back to Conca... he has shown all the signs that he has all the tools to be a gun mid/wingman with top notch skills. You just can't be unhappy with a guy like that on your list. I don't care if Heppel is better now or even may be better later. All that matters is that the club keeps picking solid picks which naturally results in a consistent rise up the ladder and then when they play in a big final in a few years does Reece play well in a pressure situation. Based on how he has gone at it in his first season he appears to be an excellent contested possession player so I am very happy to have a guy like that developing. A great pickup so far who complements our side and requirements perfectly.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Sintiger said:
We can debate Heppell v Conca forever but to be honest I don't see the point . Heppell is an Essendon player and Conca plays for Richmond now .

My view on Conca is that once he is really fit he will be an accumulator with good skills and a high reliability factor . He is not a burst player , at least not from what I have seen so far . To me he is the type of player we won't see too often in the highlight reels but when we see the stats he will have had 25 possessions just doing his job really well .

There is nothing wrong with that at all . He is going to be a very good player for us imo.

Agree with this. We already have a lot of star match-winning players. A quite achiever who can rack up 25-30 possies on a weekly basis un-noticed will be valuable.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Given that one of our weaknesses today is our lack of a negating mid-fielder (I've given up on Jacko) could we groom someone like Conca to take on that role? Difficult with a 19-year old, but we don't have anyone credible at present...
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

lukeanddad said:
Given that one of our weaknesses today is our lack of a negating mid-fielder (I've given up on Jacko) could we groom someone like Conca to take on that role? Difficult with a 19-year old, but we don't have anyone credible at present...

Helbig would be a better option to do it.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

lukeanddad said:
Given that one of our weaknesses today is our lack of a negating mid-fielder (I've given up on Jacko) could we groom someone like Conca to take on that role? Difficult with a 19-year old, but we don't have anyone credible at present...
I'm sure Conca would be stoked to be told at 19 he is going to become a negating player.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Conca will ge our tyson edwards - quietly go about his business and be a very effecient, reliable player. I happy with him.

PS - Dion Prestia is the one who we let go who will bite us on the you know what, by the end of next year he will have stamped himself as an emerging star
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Tigers of Old said:
I reckon Heppell is a ripper. The club may have gotten it 'wrong' based on info re his health.
Unfortunately it was Conca who finished the year in worse shape physically.

I'm happy with Conca but it's really a little early to tell on any players drafted last year.

Was saying the same thing last year pre-draft - Conca was a pick out of left field (relatively speaking), especially when Brisbane went Polec before us. Heppell was fantastic for Gippsland (same club as Dean McDonald) and seemed a great fit to me, as Caddy would have been. The Conca pick instead will remain facinating for many years I suspect.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Phar Ace said:
Was saying the same thing last year pre-draft - Conca was a pick out of left field (relatively speaking), especially when Brisbane went Polec before us. Heppell was fantastic for Gippsland (same club as Dean McDonald) and seemed a great fit to me, as Caddy would have been. The Conca pick instead will remain facinating for many years I suspect.

Exactly right. This is why Conca will remain a topic of discussion for long to come, he wasn't spoken about as a high draft pick until very late in the game.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

GoodOne said:
Agree about too early to tell but not sure what Rising Star has to do with it. Heppell has clearly showed his immense ability to 1. get alot of the ball, and 2. to be creative with his ball use. Pearce has never really shown consisitency in getting a lot of the ball and Raines has never shown any productive ball use. Heppell has undoubtedly performed well in excess of expectations this year and to beat more seasoned 2nd year players like Shuey and also be in the serious running for B&F at Essendon is a tremendous effort.

The point I was making was to the people on here saying that Heppell winning the Rising Star hurts/rubs salt into the wound etc. etc. The Rising Star award is a feel good piece of marketing that means very little.

I think Heppell was a very worthy winner of the award and deserved it way more than the likes of Shuey, taking into account the way the award is currently awarded. Ridiculous that rules allow blokes who have done more than one preseason to be in contention with kids who have just joined the system. IMO, the award should be voted on after 2 or 3 years on a senior list, not after their first year on a list.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Streak said:
I think Heppell was a very worthy winner of the award and deserved it way more than the likes of Shuey, taking into account the way the award is currently awarded. Ridiculous that rules allow blokes who have done more than one preseason to be in contention with kids who have just joined the system. IMO, the award should be voted on after 2 or 3 years on a senior list, not after their first year on a list.

Maybe, I think currently you have to have played less than 10 games at the start of the season and be under a certain age. Shuey was injured in his first season but you are right did benefit with an extra season under his belt. Think the voters might take this into account.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

GoodOne said:
Maybe, I think currently you have to have played less than 10 games at the start of the season and be under a certain age. Shuey was injured in his first season but you are right did benefit with an extra season under his belt. Think the voters might take this into account.

Leigh Matthews said on Adelaide radio on Tuesday he did take it into account which was why he favoured Heppell.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Juffaricho said:
Back to Conca... he has shown all the signs that he has all the tools to be a gun mid/wingman with top notch skills. You just can't be unhappy with a guy like that on your list. I don't care if Heppel is better now or even may be better later. All that matters is that the club keeps picking solid picks which naturally results in a consistent rise up the ladder and then when they play in a big final in a few years does Reece play well in a pressure situation. Based on how he has gone at it in his first season he appears to be an excellent contested possession player so I am very happy to have a guy like that developing. A great pickup so far who complements our side and requirements perfectly.

Agree. Just keep getting the right type through the door and improvement happens. The right skill set to start with is key.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

shawry said:
Leigh Matthews said on Adelaide radio on Tuesday he did take it into account which was why he favoured Heppell.

That's ridiculous. Your either eligible or your not surely.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

Conca's more than just a quiet accumulator. He's a playmaker who brings others into the game and then spreads and creates another option. We've had too few of his type.
 
Re: Reece "Squirrel" Conca

tigs2010 said:
Agree with this. We already have a lot of star match-winning players. A quite achiever who can rack up 25-30 possies on a weekly basis un-noticed will be valuable.

He'll be better than that... Robert Harveyesque!!!