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Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish

Re: Reece "2018 Whipping Boy" Conca

The Tigers are best placed when Conca is not in the first 22.

Exhibit A was season 2017.
 
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SCOOP said:
Same old, same old.

Butcher by foot and panics.

If we are to make another flag tilt, he has to be player 24+.

He doesn't panic. You can argue his execution isn't as good as it should be. But he doesn't panic.
 
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tigersnake said:
He doesn't panic. You can argue his execution isn't as good as it should be. But he doesn't panic.

That’s great. Non panic turnovers.
 
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Tommy H said:
What game was this?
It was 11 goals..round 11 1990.

Smashed us..still remember it as I went with my Cousen who is a mad hawks supporter.
 
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tigersnake said:
He doesn't panic. You can argue his execution isn't as good as it should be. But he doesn't panic.

If we had a best 5 and worst 5 for the night he would have made both lists.
 
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zgod said:
His handball receive in the fwd 50 was telling.
Was stationary and flat footed.
Everyone else in the team would have been on the move towards goal in anticipation. As a result he was nailed
When was that??
 
Re: Reece "2018 Whipping Boy" Conca

Never been a big fan of Conca's but I reckon his season so far has been pretty good. Until Friday night; man his disposal was just horrible.

Poor game but he had a lot of mates.
 
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Unfortunately, Reece was like the ball return at a bowling alley on Friday. Didn't discriminate as to who received the ball.
Got it and spat it straight out.
 
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I'm shocked and surprised SaraLee haven't picked him up,...We started to become a strong team the minute he wasn't playing, why is he a regular now?
 
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Checked out the stats. Had the most fantasy points for us on the night, Shorty second. Quite interesting I thought, stats smats I know, but still, it is an aggregate indicator of on-field performance, and a total dud with no redeeming features won it. Surprising he would ever win anything, 8-
 
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tigersnake said:
Checked out the stats. Had the most fantasy points for us on the night, Shorty second. Quite interesting I thought, stats smats I know, but still, it is an aggregate indicator of on-field performance, and a total dud with no redeeming features won it. Surprising he would ever win anything, 8-
Geez snakey, trying to construct an argument around fantasy points, don't think you're doing Reecey any favours there.
 
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TigerMasochist said:
Geez snakey, trying to construct an argument around fantasy points, don't think you're doing Reecey any favours there.
It’s the same argument others used to say Miles was amongst our best on the night. Not saying Reece was, but you can’t say using an argument is enough to support one play, but ignored for the second.
 
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TigerMasochist said:
Bloke called Dermie once played us with a shirt full of busted ribs. Put on a wet suit vest for padding n munched a rather large handful of pain killers before running out n kicking about ten ( or similar outrageous amount ) against us n we even tried to work him over. There's some hard bastards out there that get better the tougher it is.

I know they used to in the old days pumped up with juice. Would they still do that today? Conca so important to our team that they'd risk anything, even his own health to play him with broken ribs juiced up? I find it hard to believe but kudos to Conca if so.
 
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tigersnake said:
Checked out the stats. Had the most fantasy points for us on the night, Shorty second. Quite interesting I thought, stats smats I know, but still, it is an aggregate indicator of on-field performance, and a total dud with no redeeming features won it. Surprising he would ever win anything, 8-

Essentially because he laid 9 tackles. He didn’t win lots of clearances or contested possessions (only 1 & 8 respectively) yet had 10 turnovers. He had 2 score involvements. He was again let down by poor decisions/disposal. Not work ethic or application.

Ruckman rack up stats on the basis of useless hit outs.

It’s more relevant to compare stats against other players in the same position.
 
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MD Jazz said:
Essentially because he laid 9 tackles. He didn’t win lots of clearances or contested possessions (only 1 & 8 respectively) yet had 10 turnovers. He had 2 score involvements. He was again let down by poor decisions/disposal. Not work ethic or application.

Ruckman rack up stats on the basis of useless hit outs.

It’s more relevant to compare stats against other players in the same position.

AFL Fantasy score doesn't penalise poor possession. Super coach is far better at signifying this. Despite the 9 tackles and attaining 22 disposals his SC score was only 83. Butchered it a lot although I thought he played a lot better in the 2nd half. Lambert and Grigg despite high disposals were also only 80 and 79 for SC scores. Cotchin was only 68. Just thought overall we were very poor with our disposal on Friday night and this played a significant contribution to our ensuing loss.
 
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tigersnake said:
Checked out the stats. Had the most fantasy points for us on the night, Shorty second. Quite interesting I thought, stats smats I know, but still, it is an aggregate indicator of on-field performance, and a total dud with no redeeming features won it. Surprising he would ever win anything, 8-

Fantasy points are a terrible indication. AFL fantasy doesn't take into account disposal efficiency anywhere near like supercoach points. Take Stringer from last week against us, AFL fantasy 93 points, supercoach 68 points. Generally why the Bont does better on SC than AFL, same as Rance, because they actually impact the game favourably.

10 turnovers from 22 disposals is nothing to be proud about for Conca from Friday night, especially as only 8 of his possessions were contested.
 
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mrposhman said:
Fantasy points are a terrible indication. AFL fantasy doesn't take into account disposal efficiency anywhere near like supercoach points. Take Stringer from last week against us, AFL fantasy 93 points, supercoach 68 points. Generally why the Bont does better on SC than AFL, same as Rance, because they actually impact the game favourably.

10 turnovers from 22 disposals is nothing to be proud about for Conca from Friday night, especially as only 8 of his possessions were contested.

Just to add to this, on Friday Conca kicked more (I doubt there was anyone in here that thinks his kicking is a strength) and turned the ball overa lot more. Was running at 16% of disposals being turnovers in the first 11 rounds, ran at 32% on Friday, leading to disposal efficiency being 11% lower than his season average.

I think he's been ok to good so far this season, but Friday night was a very poor game by Conca,.
 
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I didn't say it was the be all and end all. Just an observation, and it is an indicator of the good things. That's my beef, people who only see the bad, possessions or games. Not putting everyone in that group. I do not think it was a very bad game by any stretch though. His modus operandi is getting the hard ball and getting it forward, and providing a lot defensively. He is no Robbie flower disposal wise, but when we are getting beaten and out worked, his clangers will stand out more. But to me his hard work and defense also stands out, as it did last Friday.