Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish

[TigerForce]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

great with the tough stuff but some of his disposal is diabolical.

Did he go with Cunnington at all today. Seemed like Chimpy was playing on him most of the time.

Maybe Conca should just try to mold himself into a Jacobs like tagger.

Awareness is still a problem. Hopefully gets that fixed and stays injury free. Great play late in the last only to be stuffed up by Bash.

 

[tigersnake]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Awareness is still a problem. Hopefully gets that fixed and stays injury free. Great play late in the last only to be stuffed up by Bash.

He is a last Q specialist, which is yet another reason why he is important to our side and fits the game plan.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Stats friendly roles? seriously? starting him the guts? That is some seriously bizaare spin right there. Desperate stuff. serious? week after week, in the engine room. clearances, 1%ers, tackles, inside 50s. always a couple of clangers to go with it, like a lot of good players, but the that is all some see.

I think you're mixing up cost and benefit. 8-

Look I’m not saying he had a bad game, but the guts are actually the easiest place to get stats, this is a game where Cunnington got 32 cps and Cotchin got 22, and even Lylod got a career high 13. Conca’s 11 was fine, but he had a role where every decent AFL mid racks up the stats when they play it.

 

[easy_tiger]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

theres no doubt there is a big gap between reeceys best and worst moments,

but right now, hes the 5th or 6th or 7th beatle

 

[linuscambridge]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca


I don’t mind him in the guts, he is hard as a cats head and if he gets it and throws it on the boot all is good. My worry with him is his work on the forward flank just outside 50. He butchered the ball a few times that led to turnovers out the back of the forward press, the worst possible time and place to turn it over.

Love his hardness, he just needs to know his limitations.

 

[happytige]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

We all love Concs and want him to succeed, but he is not the right man to have in a chain of handballs streaming in towards goal. He just needs thinking time........his best play is in tackling and defense, where his instincts are sound.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Injured himself with that first horror clanger kick at the start of the game. Constantly had issues around the groin adductor area when he was coming off for his rests. Concs is definitely not what you'd call a silky smooth polished footballer, but he's in heavy traffic hauling coal all day. More than earning his keep at the moment.

 

[22nd Man]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

I don’t mind him in the guts, he is hard as a cats head and if he gets it and throws it on the boot all is good. My worry with him is his work on the forward flank just outside 50. He butchered the ball a few times that led to turnovers out the back of the forward press, the worst possible time and place to turn it over.

Love his hardness, he just needs to know his limitations.

They weren't all concas but some terrible turnovers we got away with as Norf were too inept to capitalise or our back six forced a turnover of of Their own.

 

[tigerlove]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Has to stay in, he was he only one who could squeeze a free out of the umpires, he received 5.

 

[ninjahaha]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Has to stay in, he was he only one who could squeeze a free out of the umpires, he received 5.

Even umpires love a Conca cuddle!

 

[tigersnake]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Has to stay in, he was he only one who could squeeze a free out of the umpires, he received 5.

He laid some great tackles yesterday.

Classic quote from Lamby on the changes for next week thread:

‘A few others like Conca are treading water, playing their role (imperfectly) but really imposters when someone like Miles is in the twos.’

So playing his role, imperfectly, but an imposter. This encapsulates the wrong-headed thinking on Reece, and also the failure to grasp what our team and gameplan is about. They might pay lip service to it, but when it boils down to brass tacks, do not get it. I’m not singling Lamby out, he isn’t on his Pat Malone, but this nails it, and is a gold post IMO, but not for the reasons intended.

Here is a couple of reminders about the essence of our team and its success:
Dimma’s pre-GF speech:

‘We know what’s made us a great football club this year, and it’s the ability to work for each other, it’s embracing the imperfection of who we are. I love what you’ve done, I’m so proud of you, we’ve got one big step to go.’

Here’s another from Dimma post-GF:

‘leave your ego at the door, just come in and play your role,’

Embrace imperfection, play your role. So according to Lamby, Reece is playing his role, imperfectly, Ergo, he is everything we are about, right?

Couple of highly visible bad clangers yesterday, and not making the distance on the set shot was disappointing. But the sophisticated analyst will look at a player’s contribution as a whole. Was easily in our 10 best. Some just don’t seem to be able to actually see the good work he does. I think it’s a bit or bias, and also a bit of Simon Black syndrome, I’m not saying Concs is as good as Black by any stretch, but you’d have to be really watching to appreciate his head-over-the-ball work in the clinches.

Reece is a key contributor, he is a 15-20th best player, no doubt, but one of the best 15-20th players in the competition, he’s in the engine room of the best side after all. He does things that are hard to do, and as Dimma emphasises, ‘works for his team mates’. And if he can keep doing what he is doing but halve the clanger count, (he hasn’t actually done that many this year, but they do tend to stand out), he will start to get some real accolades.

 

[lamb22]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Playing his role was a complement. Imperfectly means he can do better.

I assume he plays because of what he offers defensively and on the spread. Finding the ball and using the ball, Milesy has him covered. In the sense of actual pure offensive football qualities compared to Miles he is an imposter.

I didn't suggest Conca being dropped. I do suggest some deep breathing and leg crossing for Snakey to avoid hyperventilating and tangential and even non tangential non sequiturs.

 

[Gazmatron]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

He laid some great tackles yesterday.

Classic quote from Lamby on the changes for next week thread:

‘A few others like Conca are treading water, playing their role (imperfectly) but really imposters when someone like Miles is in the twos.’

So playing his role, imperfectly, but an imposter. This encapsulates the wrong-headed thinking on Reece, and also the failure to grasp what our team and gameplan is about. They might pay lip service to it, but when it boils down to brass tacks, do not get it. I’m not singling Lamby out, he isn’t on his Pat Malone, but this nails it, and is a gold post IMO, but not for the reasons intended.

Here is a couple of reminders about the essence of our team and its success:
Dimma’s pre-GF speech:

‘We know what’s made us a great football club this year, and it’s the ability to work for each other, it’s embracing the imperfection of who we are. I love what you’ve done, I’m so proud of you, we’ve got one big step to go.’

Here’s another from Dimma post-GF:

‘leave your ego at the door, just come in and play your role,’

Embrace imperfection, play your role. So according to Lamby, Reece is playing his role, imperfectly, Ergo, he is everything we are about, right?

Couple of highly visible bad clangers yesterday, and not making the distance on the set shot was disappointing. But the sophisticated analyst will look at a player’s contribution as a whole. Was easily in our 10 best. Some just don’t seem to be able to actually see the good work he does. I think it’s a bit or bias, and also a bit of Simon Black syndrome, I’m not saying Concs is as good as Black by any stretch, but you’d have to be really watching to appreciate his head-over-the-ball work in the clinches.

Reece is a key contributor, he is a 15-20th best player, no doubt, but one of the best 15-20th players in the competition, he’s in the engine room of the best side after all. He does things that are hard to do, and as Dimma emphasises, ‘works for his team mates’. And if he can keep doing what he is doing but halve the clanger count, (he hasn’t actually done that many this year, but they do tend to stand out), he will start to get some real accolades.

Well put Each week we seem to have a few passengers including one or two Barry Crockers however doesn't seem to effect the overall result. Some hard judges here unless your one of the prized 6 or 8 one ordinary effort your for being dropped. This week seems Butler and George, glad the match committee are making the final decisions.

 

[tigersnake]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Was 'water-treading imposter' a complement as well? Classic bob-every which way. Don't worry about me, just embrace the imperfection! 8-

 

[lamb22]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

PS I also complement Snakey on his chutspah quoting embracing 'imperfection'.

 

[tigerdave]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

Good at getting it but can't kick for sh!t.

 

[Tiger Pops]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

have to hope his very bad turnovers dont cost us direct goals bur for now adds to the mid depth that is Cotch - Caddy - Dusty - Lambert and Prestia when back. He is quite quick and surprisingly evasive. Keeps his spot for now.

 

[Disco]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

have to hope his very bad turnovers dont cost us direct goals bur for now adds to the mid depth that is Cotch - Caddy - Dusty - Lambert and Prestia when back. He is quite quick and surprisingly evasive. Keeps his spot for now.

Surprisingly evasive?

What....except when he tries to go around someone to get on his right because he cant kick on his left, and gets absolutely collared.

 

[TigerFlag2017]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

I am fond of Conca and want to see him succeed. But I would be happy to see Miles get a run ahead of Conca for a few weeks. I think Conca has improved and generally been ok-to-good, but I think we need to try something to address the contested ball issues we have. It is a matter of finding the right balance of our top mids Cotchin-Martin-Prestia-Edwards with the next tier, and I am not convinced Conca is the LT solution.

I would be surprised if Dimma doesn't give him a game in his home state this weekend, but he wouldn't want to put in a stinker.

 

[MD Jazz]

Re: Reece "Skills" Conca

He laid some great tackles yesterday.

Classic quote from Lamby on the changes for next week thread:

‘A few others like Conca are treading water, playing their role (imperfectly) but really imposters when someone like Miles is in the twos.’

So playing his role, imperfectly, but an imposter. This encapsulates the wrong-headed thinking on Reece, and also the failure to grasp what our team and gameplan is about. They might pay lip service to it, but when it boils down to brass tacks, do not get it. I’m not singling Lamby out, he isn’t on his Pat Malone, but this nails it, and is a gold post IMO, but not for the reasons intended.

Here is a couple of reminders about the essence of our team and its success:
Dimma’s pre-GF speech:

‘We know what’s made us a great football club this year, and it’s the ability to work for each other, it’s embracing the imperfection of who we are. I love what you’ve done, I’m so proud of you, we’ve got one big step to go.’

Here’s another from Dimma post-GF:

‘leave your ego at the door, just come in and play your role,’

Embrace imperfection, play your role. So according to Lamby, Reece is playing his role, imperfectly, Ergo, he is everything we are about, right?

Couple of highly visible bad clangers yesterday, and not making the distance on the set shot was disappointing. But the sophisticated analyst will look at a player’s contribution as a whole. Was easily in our 10 best. Some just don’t seem to be able to actually see the good work he does. I think it’s a bit or bias, and also a bit of Simon Black syndrome, I’m not saying Concs is as good as Black by any stretch, but you’d have to be really watching to appreciate his head-over-the-ball work in the clinches.

Reece is a key contributor, he is a 15-20th best player, no doubt, but one of the best 15-20th players in the competition, he’s in the engine room of the best side after all. He does things that are hard to do, and as Dimma emphasises, ‘works for his team mates’. And if he can keep doing what he is doing but halve the clanger count, (he hasn’t actually done that many this year, but they do tend to stand out), he will start to get some real accolades.

Why mention Simon black? He was universally lauded as a gun, can't remember anyone saying otherwise.

You make some decent points, and Reece is probably better suited to our game plan than miles (despite miles clearly being a better footballer IMO), but save us the words like gun and odious comparisons to great players. Reece is trier, he needs to understand his limitations better. But he has earnt his spot in our system, good luck to him.