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Reece Conca - so long and thanks for all the fish

Re: Reece "Two More Years" Conca

TigerMasochist said:
If he hadn't been a walking Hammy special I've no doubt the Concs would have at least been a pretty decent player.

Agree, TM. Best 22 player at any club if he could get his body right. More than a bit of bad luck with his selection at 6. We've made bigger blunders in the first round subsequently.
 
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Gypsy__Jazz said:
Agree, TM. Best 22 player at any club if he could get his body right. More than a bit of bad luck with his selection at 6. We've made bigger blunders in the first round subsequently.

Best 22 at any club? Maybe in the Essendon district league sure.
He is slow of hand and pace & is a very ordinary kick of the footy!
Got me stuffed what people see in this spud
 
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rinso17 said:
Best 22 at any club? Maybe in the Essendon district league sure.
He is slow of hand and pace & is a very ordinary kick of the footy!
Got me stuffed what people see in this spud

Very very ordinary footballer. If he was drafted by any other team, he would've been delisted by now.
Matches Foria for me as the worse draft pick we have taken and for what we could've had.
Lynch!!!!!

Roili Lynch Jack
 
Re: Reece "Two More Years" Conca

Gazmatron said:
This is all very sad. Why not give the guy a break Whether he was entitled to be picked up at 6 is now long history. The pessimists here don't even want to see him get on the park next year. Conca probably can't wait for Morro and Townsend to get on the park to share the vitriol unless of course the doom merchants have us 0 - 6 rounds when Dimma will consume all. As a person who has supported the Tigers since the 1950s I have always been optimistic that better times will come (maybe by May in most years I become a little more philosophical). Up to now I am optimistic, was staggered at how well we traded given past performances. Drafted reasonably given our position in the picks. Would love Conca to play 16+ games as would probably do wonders for his confidence. I would hate to have had the weight of expectations this guy has had on him

Well said Gaz i am with you..
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Chestnut will slay it next season and cook the haters
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

artball said:
Chestnut will slay it next season and cook the haters

Heres one that hope your right, think Conca and Graham and a few other now 2nd tier lids will be important to cover with class should we need rotations or injuries hit, im hoping that Reece can finally have a good run at it and have a full season!
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

artball said:
Chestnut will slay it next season and cook the haters

Ah the Richmond catch cry..."next season".

We,ll see.......
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Never understood the love for this bloke. Didn't see it early with Jack so I have form for being blinded sometimes.
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Merveille said:
So how's he travellin..? Big hopes for him and Vlaustin

He looked very fit in the intra club and got plenty of the ball, Merv. His ball use was rushed in a few instances when he had more time to balance up and use effectively. He kept going to ground in the clinches and would've been pinned for holding the ball a couple of times at AFL level for jumping on the pill instead of keeping his feet. But unlike a lot of our guys, he is a ferociously strong player, laid a stack of tackles and his pace was evident throughout the match, so there is hope for him in 2017 if his body holds up. Continuity will help to add the polish he was lacking on Saturday morning. He's one to watch in the JLT with interest - he's like a new recruit.

Since he was pick 6 in the 2010 National Draft, I can understand some of Conca hatred on here. But at 22 and 23, in 2015 & 16, he couldn't get on the park. In his 3rd season in 2014, he'd got his average tackle count up to an average of 5 per game. A truly Herculean number on the Richmond list. Unheard of. Now as a 24 year old we might be ready to see the best of him in 2017. He's no world beater, but he is a busy player whose tackles stick and he has the pace to apply that manic pressure we desperately lacked in 2016.

First round picks do represent a club's best chance to get A grade talent on the list and it stings when top liners like Tom Lynch (GC) and Dyson Heppell get overlooked for a bloke who isn't going to reach their heights. But unlike a couple of our recent first round picks, Reece Conca can get involved in the game with his pace and win or shut down a contest with his strength. Reece doesn't have the skills to be as good as Dyson Heppell in 2017, but the Richmond engine room doesn't lack glamour, it lacks support from the underlist. Conca is an important part of an underlist that evaporated under Francis Jackson's recruiting and forced us to trade in talent with valuable draft picks. He doesn't have to be Heppell, but he does have the upside to be entrenched in a 22 in a side that wins a final. We want him to stay fit. If he does, we'll get a look at what Reece Conca the senior footballer can do. If that's a step up from Reece Conca the developing first round draft pick, Richmond will be a better side in 2017.
 
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Gypsy__Jazz said:
He looked very fit in the intra club and got plenty of the ball, Merv. His ball use was rushed in a few instances when he had more time to balance up and use effectively. He kept going to ground in the clinches and would've been pinned for holding the ball a couple of times at AFL level for jumping on the pill instead of keeping his feet. But unlike a lot of our guys, he is a ferociously strong player, laid a stack of tackles and his pace was evident throughout the match, so there is hope for him in 2017 if his body holds up. Continuity will help to add the polish he was lacking on Saturday morning. He's one to watch in the JLT with interest - he's like a new recruit.

Since he was pick 6 in the 2010 National Draft, I can understand some of Conca hatred on here. But at 22 and 23, in 2015 & 16, he couldn't get on the park. In his 3rd season in 2014, he'd got his average tackle count up to an average of 5 per game. A truly Herculean number on the Richmond list. Unheard of. Now as a 24 year old we might be ready to see the best of him in 2017. He's no world beater, but he is a busy player whose tackles stick and he has the pace to apply that manic pressure we desperately lacked in 2016.

First round picks do represent a club's best chance to get A grade talent on the list and it stings when top liners like Tom Lynch (GC) and Dyson Heppell get overlooked for a bloke who isn't going to reach their heights. But unlike a couple of our recent first round picks, Reece Conca can get involved in the game with his pace and win or shut down a contest with his strength. Reece doesn't have the skills to be as good as Dyson Heppell in 2017, but the Richmond engine room doesn't lack glamour, it lacks support from the underlist. Conca is an important part of an underlist that evaporated under Francis Jackson's recruiting and forced us to trade in talent with valuable draft picks. He doesn't have to be Heppell, but he does have the upside to be entrenched in a 22 in a side that wins a final. We want him to stay fit. If he does, we'll get a look at what Reece Conca the senior footballer can do. If that's a step up from Reece Conca the developing first round draft pick, Richmond will be a better side in 2017.

should we be using The Concreter as a stopper? Cruelly toying with the Dangermice of the world?
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

easy said:
should we be using The Concreter as a stopper? Cruelly toying with the Dangermice of the world?

We've played him head to head with those blokes before, Easy. Stopping is already part of his reportoire. Danger might be a bit out of his reach, no shame in that though.

Conca wasn't far off a goal a game in 2013 and his defensive pressure up forward could be useful, particularly if paired with Rioli. But I reckon he can provide support wherever he's needed. For instance, he's much busier than Brandon who played back exclusively in the intra. And I reckon he's busier and far stronger than George Castagna who played predominantly forward. Kamdyn Town spent a lot of time forward and might be about to vacate the wing he was most effective on, but Grigg might be the guy who gets that spot ahead of Conca.

PREnders on other threads have been touting a forward line with Lloyd, Jack, Rioli, Caddy and Griff but I reckon that forward line looks bloody slow with a resting mid rounding out the 6.
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Gypsy__Jazz said:
We've played him head to head with those blokes before, Easy. Stopping is already part of his reportoire. Danger might be a bit out of his reach, no shame in that though.

Conca wasn't far off a goal a game in 2013 and his defensive pressure up forward could be useful, particularly if paired with Rioli. But I reckon he can provide support wherever he's needed. For instance, he's much busier than Brandon who played back exclusively in the intra. And I reckon he's busier and far stronger than George Castagna who played predominantly forward. Kamdyn Town spent a lot of time forward and might be about to vacate the wing he was most effective on, but Grigg might be the guy who gets that spot ahead of Conca.

PREnders on other threads have been touting a forward line with Lloyd, Jack, Rioli, Caddy and Griff but I reckon that forward line looks bloody slow with a resting mid rounding out the 6.

I hear ya Gypsy. Ive never publicly denigrated Reecy C, and as you point out, he would be a new recruit if he could get some consistency and fitness.

But I'm a bit of a GRigg fan, and would currenrtly have him in my best 22 ahead of Reecey.

Yeah that forward line looks a bit cumbersome to me.

Id go

$hai Jack Resting Ruck

Lloyd Dusty (semi-permanently) Drioli

Dusty can have the odd go in the guts, but we suddenly have plenty of big bodies in the guts. Dusty is a powerful elite weapon who strikes fear in hearts, and powerful elite weapons who strike fear in hearts should play at CHF.
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Gypsy__Jazz said:
He looked very fit in the intra club and got plenty of the ball, Merv. His ball use was rushed in a few instances when he had more time to balance up and use effectively. He kept going to ground in the clinches and would've been pinned for holding the ball a couple of times at AFL level for jumping on the pill instead of keeping his feet. But unlike a lot of our guys, he is a ferociously strong player, laid a stack of tackles and his pace was evident throughout the match, so there is hope for him in 2017 if his body holds up. Continuity will help to add the polish he was lacking on Saturday morning. He's one to watch in the JLT with interest - he's like a new recruit.

Since he was pick 6 in the 2010 National Draft, I can understand some of Conca hatred on here. But at 22 and 23, in 2015 & 16, he couldn't get on the park. In his 3rd season in 2014, he'd got his average tackle count up to an average of 5 per game. A truly Herculean number on the Richmond list. Unheard of. Now as a 24 year old we might be ready to see the best of him in 2017. He's no world beater, but he is a busy player whose tackles stick and he has the pace to apply that manic pressure we desperately lacked in 2016.

First round picks do represent a club's best chance to get A grade talent on the list and it stings when top liners like Tom Lynch (GC) and Dyson Heppell get overlooked for a bloke who isn't going to reach their heights. But unlike a couple of our recent first round picks, Reece Conca can get involved in the game with his pace and win or shut down a contest with his strength. Reece doesn't have the skills to be as good as Dyson Heppell in 2017, but the Richmond engine room doesn't lack glamour, it lacks support from the underlist. Conca is an important part of an underlist that evaporated under Francis Jackson's recruiting and forced us to trade in talent with valuable draft picks. He doesn't have to be Heppell, but he does have the upside to be entrenched in a 22 in a side that wins a final. We want him to stay fit. If he does, we'll get a look at what Reece Conca the senior footballer can do. If that's a step up from Reece Conca the developing first round draft pick, Richmond will be a better side in 2017.

Thanks Gypsy, I agree with all that too..
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

He may not have been the best pick at #6 that year, but if he is the worst top 10 draft pick we ever make I'll be happy.
 
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Not sure how the Conca story will end but I sincerely hope that we actually get the see him fit and with a full preseason. Then we can truly judge him. We have never actually seen a fully fit and match fit Reece Conca.

I notice that there have been a few posting that he is slow but that is definitely not the case.
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Nah he's busy enough.

It's his inability to keep his feet, slow decision making by hand and very iffy kicking that will hold him back.
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Bill James said:
He may not have been the best pick at #6 that year, but if he is the worst top 10 draft pick we ever make I'll be happy.
Raise your standards mate.
 
Re: Reece "Top 10 Pick #6 ever" Conca

Leysy Days said:
Nah he's busy enough.

It's his inability to keep his feet, slow decision making by hand and very iffy kicking that will hold him back.

To cut a long story short, Francis Jackson's dud recruitment.
Peter Francis called it .
Hepell a future club captain.
All Frankie had to do was make a phone call.