Re: Adam Goodes

[Tigertough1974]

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Pathetic act of socialism from our great club. Why would a club support a guy who has staged for free kicks consistently for years? Staging for free kicks like Goodes does is cheating. The AFL does not enforce the rules for staging as we all know from the last round in 2014 when 'bambi' got hit by a mystery asteroid. :

He is a protected species by the AFL (they have rules to report people who stage). Pathetic how RFC support a cheat that does not understand he is a cheat and disguises it by feeling offended for people booing because he stages for free kicks.

Some idiots are racists but that does not mean if you boo a flog fake footballer you are a bigot like the uneducated Geelong coach stated today.

It's all about ME time with Mr Goodes. Can't wait until he retires.

ps. It's not racist to remind people of the facts (staging) and to have an opinion!!

Extremely harsh calling him a fake footballer, yes he staged a few rd23 last year and has throughout his career, boomer knocked it out of priddis hands and got a 50m...

Im not a fan of Goodes and it most certainly isn't race based, one thing is for sure he's a blocky great footballer, double brown low medalist, premiership player and how many B & Fs at a very successful club.....

 

[H tiger]

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I think it's fantastic the tigers are taking this initiative against racism. That said....

Some of its racist, some of its cause he's a cheat, some of its cause its putting him off his game, some of its sheep mentality. Some of its the way he has responded. Some of its cause he is perceived as a tool. There is a load of tall poppy syndrome thrown in.

Its a shame its become so political.

Its a shame he has been really hurt by it. But its been going on towards public figures in all societies in every age. Especially in sport.

Loads of player cop it. In this case its just snowballed. I have no problem with anyone standing by goodes, but the way so many have labeled it as racism n have no appreciation that there are other issues involved is poor form.

A survey on the hun says 80% of people believe it is not "solely" racist. But the 20% beating the politically correct drum are ignoring the complexity of the issue and slamming many as racist who are in no way such. But just posting this makes me racist apparently.

All that said I hope that it stops as he is obviously in a bad place after it all. Also its giving all AFL fans a bad rap.

Great post.

I haven't (and wouldn't) boo Goodes. But he has changed as a player as he got older and grumpier. Any player who did his dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge faux hard man routine would cop vitriol from opposition supporters. He was like some sort of Vaudeville Villain against us earlier in the year with his antics. It's a shame because he was such a fantastic footballer.

 

[Chimptastic]

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Proud of the fact Richmond is being applauded for showing meaningful initiative in the AFL community. In the eyes of a number of people, we've earned some serious respect.

Beat Hawthorn and even the harshest critic will look at Richmond differently. Massive opportunity to shed some of those deeply ingrained, 30-year-old perceptions this week.

 

[Giardiasis]

As long as they act like white people.

All humans "act" in the same capacity; we all act for the purpose of removing uneasiness to go from a less desirable to a more desirable situation. We all follow the same logic. It is a key doctrine of racism to reject this.

 

[69 vintage]

Next week we can wear our green training tops to support all the umpires that have copped booing over the years .

 

[Chelsea]

If the club wore the jumper to support all indigenous players then I would applaud. Wearing it to support Adam goodes is ridiculous and counter-productive.
He is not dead and has not played for our great club. We also want goodes and the swans off their game so we can grab 4th.
I ask this question to my fellow Richmond members and supporters.
If we play the swans in a grand final and goodes is doing a David mundy and having a shot for goal to win the game, will you boo?
If you do anything at all, then you are supposedly giving racism a voice.
I ask another question. If booing is giving racism a voice, what can the majority of people who boo but are not racists do to separate ourselves from the racists while showing our displeasure at goodes?

 

[Chelsea]

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Changes v Hawks?

Apparently our jumper.

We've played some of our best footy in our yellow away strip too.

Disappointed with the reason we changed but that is for another topic.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

If you haven't watched Footy Classified I recommend it.

 

[seven]

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FFS, it's not racism.
It's Bullying if anything, the morons who boo him do it coz he is a wanker not because he is Aboriginal.

Ps, test the luck of the yellow jumper instead!!!
We're 3-0 in that aren't we?

I don't agree with some of things Goodes has said off or on the field and I certainly don't agree with some of his actions on or off the field.
Is it racism? I don't know, maybe some of it is.
But i think there's a stage were you have to say enough is enough.

Glad to see RFC stand up and say enough. :clap

 

[69 vintage]

What do I do Friday night when Cyril is having a shot for goal ?

 

[CarnTheTiges]

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If we've got a jumper like this available, then I think there are worse reasons to use it than this. Hardwick said on FC earlier this week that when someone boos Goodes they're also booing players like Shane Edwards and any other indigenous player in the league. I personally don't feel that it was originally started as a racist act (Sydney supporters booed Buddy when he played for Hawthorn), but the continuation of it does shield some people who hold racist views. It's become a bit of a game now, the sheep mentality has taken hold. It has turned into a form of crowd bullying though. I don't boo players (actually I did boo Milne), I will shout that they're staging or diving or have tried to take one of our players heads off, though. It's unfortunately gone beyond that with Goodes.

 

[IanG]

I ask another question. If booing is giving racism a voice, what can the majority of people who boo but are not racists do to separate ourselves from the racists while showing our displeasure at goodes?

Don't you think he has got the message by now? What is the point in continuing it?

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Now we've taken the initiative maybe the other clubs could follow suit and also wear their Dreamtime strips. It's a good way of the players saying that enough is enough and a show of support for one of their own who has been affected by crowd behaviour, no matter what the reason behind it.

 

[artball]

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good words CarntheTiges. for whatever the reason the 'boo' thing exists, its become very tired, and tiring. it would be like walking in and out of work each day and people boo you when you arrive and leave. funny a few times but then it becomes something else. i don't care what race people are, my objections to Goodes have been based on how he plays the game, the same as any footballer who might behave the same way. RFC have made a nice gesture with the jumper, but i don't think it was necessary.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

It's not our battle to fight but puts the club in a good light.

 

[JimJessTorp]

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I think the gesture is necessary. I think the game as a whole needs to activly counter the racism that exists within it. If this helps then great. As for Adam, I think he is being treated differently. I think it is because he dares to shine a light on some of the dark corners that exist within the game and within Australian society. And a lot of people don't like it.

Go Tiges!

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

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We’ll Decide When We’re Being Racist, White People Tell Black People

By The Shovel on July 30, 2015

White Australians will advise non-white Australians as soon as they start being racist, it has been decided.

“This is a good system that removes any confusion,” a spokesperson said. “At the moment we’re not being racist, but we’ll let you know if that changes. We’re experts on this, so there’s nothing you need to worry about”.

Another spokesperson – who has extensive experience in the racism area – strongly agreed. “I understand that this can be complex for some people – it is a little tricky if you’re not experienced in this kind of thing – but we’ve got it covered, ok?”

He said there was no need to get all uptight. “What’s important is that we take the emotion out of this issue and just stick to the facts. That way we can just get everything back to normal”.

http://www.theshovel.com.au/2015/07/30/well-decide-when-were-being-racist-white-people-tell-black-people/

 

[TigerForce]

Next week we can wear our green training tops to support all the umpires that have copped booing over the years .

:hihi

 

[Cotchin_4_brownlow]

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I think the gesture is necessary. I think the game as a whole needs to activly counter the racism that exists within it. If this helps then great. As for Adam, I think he is being treated differently. I think it is because he dares to shine a light on some of the dark corners that exist within the game and within Australian society. And a lot of people don't like it.

Go Tiges!

I totally agree. The more we talk about past atrocities and the more we can educate people the better - even eagles and pies supporters.... There is a huge cultural divide in this country and as a white Australian the sooner we can face up to our past and put the effort into understanding the difficulties our indigenous Australian still face the sooner we can move forward and strive for real equality. Goodes is a spokesperson for the indigenous community he has every right to say it how it is. Looking forward to buying a dreamtime Guernsey today and cheering the tigers on tomorrow night!!!

 

[Baloo]

If the club wore the jumper to support all indigenous players then I would applaud. Wearing it to support Adam goodes is ridiculous and counter-productive.

This issue is now bigger than Goodes. It does effect the other 70 or so indigenous players. The jumper is supporting Edwards as much as its supporting Goodes now. Goodes is the figurehead in all this but the underlying issue is bigger than Goodes.