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Poll on Tom Mitchell
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The noise around him to Richmond won’t go away - is there legitimate interest here? Seems more than just an one off comment.
For the record - I would take him but wouldn’t be giving up much at all and probably not what the hawks are expecting for him.
For the record - I would take him but wouldn’t be giving up much at all and probably not what the hawks are expecting for him.
100% we need him
If we are fair dickum that we want challenge next year, he is the exact player we need..
Gets the ball a million times and thats what we need.
Geelong's pick will do it.
Or if we get Footscary's first pick unleash it.
We end up with Tarrant, Mitchell pick 7, pick 15 or 17 and 26 and 28.
That's top class list management.
We just cant load up on kids.
4 kids 2 senior players
If we are fair dickum that we want challenge next year, he is the exact player we need..
Gets the ball a million times and thats what we need.
Geelong's pick will do it.
Or if we get Footscary's first pick unleash it.
We end up with Tarrant, Mitchell pick 7, pick 15 or 17 and 26 and 28.
That's top class list management.
We just cant load up on kids.
4 kids 2 senior players
Certainly can get it & as a genuine inside mid would address our clearances. However so too would some of our current injured players. (Soldo, Prestia)
29 next year as an inside mid probably has 2-3 years left of decent footy assuming he doesn't get injured.
Right price is late first rounder or early second rounder.
Would I go in that direction given the way Melbourne played this year? Probably not.
Transition mids are the future.
29 next year as an inside mid probably has 2-3 years left of decent footy assuming he doesn't get injured.
Right price is late first rounder or early second rounder.
Would I go in that direction given the way Melbourne played this year? Probably not.
Transition mids are the future.
Prestia is a warrior, he just can't go through an entire season without getting injured.
If we lose Martin, Edwards or Cotchin during the season,
Bottom 6.
Why go into another season knowing our clearance numbers are horrific.
Don't patch over the problem, FiX it.
What are they going to go draft 6 new kids, cross there fingers 1 can play, meanwhile Jack, Grimes and Cotchin will be gone.
Go now.
We need a Mark Couglan clone
Haha I don't know how anyone votes 'no' when the title says 'if the price if right'. That price may be a late draft pick and a salary split. So that means if you vote no, you don't rate Mitchell at all, which is erm...interesting.
Maybe if we get the doggies 1st, I would give that, or 15. and he gets told he is only allowed to get the ball at stoppages.
Dawks have plenty of cap room. Think the only way they could get a first round pick is by paying some of his salary.
I'm leaning to no on the basis of his age. But he's coming off a near career best season stats wise. If he costs us the same in salary cap as a mid range player, perhaps it's worth a look.
The salary is the big issue with Mitchell. He's got a lot to learn and has to be paid accordingly, given that he's 28.
Liability as he might be with his running patterns, his formation work and his ball use, he has a Brownlow Medal. And being deluded about what to do on a football ground he will be at least that much so about his value.
Sam Mitchell will have already told him all this and does look to be punting him. So, at a third club, it's possible Sam Mitchell gets the message.
Mitchell, for all his failures, did some very good things on a football ground in 2021. Things no current Richmond player can do. Tom Mitchell is not mediocre. He is terrible or he is elite. The terrible stuff looks like poor values.
If we can get him into the TPP and if we think we can coach him we pay pick #7 in a heartbeat. And that is market overs.
We are alive as preemiership contenders for two more years if Bones Martin can get on the shakes. Maybe three. We don't win them by adding mediocres.
Don't forget that we had to retrain all the blokes we got from elsewhere, particularly Prestia and Lynch. (Not that either was as loose as TM.)
If we think TM's weaknesses are chronic we don't play. But you've got to fancy yourself as a club, eh?
Liability as he might be with his running patterns, his formation work and his ball use, he has a Brownlow Medal. And being deluded about what to do on a football ground he will be at least that much so about his value.
Sam Mitchell will have already told him all this and does look to be punting him. So, at a third club, it's possible Sam Mitchell gets the message.
Mitchell, for all his failures, did some very good things on a football ground in 2021. Things no current Richmond player can do. Tom Mitchell is not mediocre. He is terrible or he is elite. The terrible stuff looks like poor values.
If we can get him into the TPP and if we think we can coach him we pay pick #7 in a heartbeat. And that is market overs.
We are alive as preemiership contenders for two more years if Bones Martin can get on the shakes. Maybe three. We don't win them by adding mediocres.
Don't forget that we had to retrain all the blokes we got from elsewhere, particularly Prestia and Lynch. (Not that either was as loose as TM.)
If we think TM's weaknesses are chronic we don't play. But you've got to fancy yourself as a club, eh?
I have been very strong on the need to recruit a ready made mid to help address a core deficiency that was clearly exposed in 2021. Hopper was the one we needed. Can't always get what you need.....and Mitchell does not have the qualities we need!
The successful days of giving up first possession in the clearance to force turnover and then attack - are pretty much gonski. The game has swung back to first possession importance. Two of the best players in the league in 2021 were Oliver and Wines. Both not overly quick and average by foot but elite in the contest.
The dees have a power midfield but that’s only possible with Oliver and Viney and co getting first hands on the pill and getting it going.
We have plenty of players who can hurt you on the spread with their power and running - Martin, Bolton, Edwards, Lambert etc we just struggle to win the pill at the coal face.
For all his faults - Mitchell is just about the best in the comp in this area.
The dees have a power midfield but that’s only possible with Oliver and Viney and co getting first hands on the pill and getting it going.
We have plenty of players who can hurt you on the spread with their power and running - Martin, Bolton, Edwards, Lambert etc we just struggle to win the pill at the coal face.
For all his faults - Mitchell is just about the best in the comp in this area.
