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Pick 17, 20 & 25

Giardiasis said:
Well at the moment we’re going to have Maric, Yarran, Elton, Hunt and Morris off the list with Batchelor another likely departure. We would have to delist one more player for us to actually use the 3rd rounder in a meaningful sense on a new player, as we are upgrading Soldo and Castagna. Most likely in the gun is Lennon. If we keep Lennon then it really is a complete wasted pick swap. Terrible outcome.
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Still a little unsure myself. But we must have the mandatory minimum 3 list changes next year. Flog off too many this year and we have problems next year in who to delist. Supposedly a stronger draft than this year. Lennon, Lloyd and Miles as depth this year, vulnerable next year
 
CC TIGER said:
Anyway I think 17,20,25 is better then 15,17 in a solid draft.
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agree.

I think its the recruiters saying Our No.1 priority will be there at Pick 17, our No 2. priority will be there at 20 (one of these maybe naishy, ive no idea obviously)

thereby, making 25 essentially a free pick (lets not forget we took $hai at 29).

From memory, we did a similar thing the year we drafted Reiwoldt?

Sydney also tried to a similar thing in order to get Dusty :cutelaugh

we are the reigning premiers. we are the envy of the football world.
 
willo said:
You can only have the same number of picks available as list spots available. No extra picks as in the past to bundle up.

We take Naish with any one of our late picks even our last, provided no other club bids for Naish.

We don't make a bid. We wait until another club bids. Then we decide whether to match or not (depends where he is bid on and how much we value him)
If another club bids pick 13 (1212 points) if we match we get a 20% discount. Ie 121 points off 1212.
We must then use our next pick (plus others if required to match the 1212-121 points=1091 points)
Our next pick is 17, worth 1025 points. We still "owe" 70 points so this is deducted from our next pick.
Which is Pick 20=912 points-70 =842 points. Which is nearly pick 22. So our pick 20 slides back to 22/23ish which in essence becomes pick 21/22ish seeing pick 20 isn't actually used.
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Thanks - now it makes more sense, I was worried if someone bid 12-14 ish then it would cost us basically our first two picks which is not the case, just our second pick falls a couple of spots
 
willo said:
You can only have the same number of picks available as list spots available. No extra picks as in the past to bundle up.

We take Naish with any one of our late picks even our last, provided no other club bids for Naish.

We don't make a bid. We wait until another club bids. Then we decide whether to match or not (depends where he is bid on and how much we value him)
If another club bids pick 13 (1212 points) if we match we get a 20% discount. Ie 121 points off 1212.
We must then use our next pick (plus others if required to match the 1212-121 points=1091 points)
Our next pick is 17, worth 1025 points. We still "owe" 70 points so this is deducted from our next pick.
Which is Pick 20=912 points-70 =842 points. Which is nearly pick 22. So our pick 20 slides back to 22/23ish which in essence becomes pick 21/22ish seeing pick 20 isn't actually used.
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True

For the record you only took 10% off, not 20% but I get your drift.
 
willo said:
You can only have the same number of picks available as list spots available. No extra picks as in the past to bundle up.

We take Naish with any one of our late picks even our last, provided no other club bids for Naish.

We don't make a bid. We wait until another club bids. Then we decide whether to match or not (depends where he is bid on and how much we value him)
If another club bids pick 13 (1212 points) if we match we get a 20% discount. Ie 121 points off 1212.
We must then use our next pick (plus others if required to match the 1212-121 points=1091 points)
Our next pick is 17, worth 1025 points. We still "owe" 70 points so this is deducted from our next pick.
Which is Pick 20=912 points-70 =842 points. Which is nearly pick 22. So our pick 20 slides back to 22/23ish which in essence becomes pick 21/22ish seeing pick 20 isn't actually used.
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Willo what is the scenario if someone bids at 16 and we have to use 17 less our 20% discount, (giving us excess points), does this come off our next pick 20 or at the back of draft???
 
More often, further delistings are done after the trade period, Lennon or batch would be nervous
 
caesar said:
Willo what is the scenario if someone bids at 16 and we have to use 17 less our 20% discount, (giving us excess points), does this come off our next pick 20 or at the back of draft???
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That’s a great question!
Do we get those excess points added to our next pick?
 
Giardiasis said:
It doesn't help us with Naish as any pick before 25 won't need our 3rd rounders, and for any pick between 26-33 both 53 and 55 combined won't be enough.
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So this is wrong, we can cover a bid at 30 as it goes from a 20% discount to a flat 197 points after pick 18.
 
Balmer has Brander going to us at 17!!!!!

Falling like a stone. Weird. Would be a huge steal at 17.
 
17, .... (1025)
20,. (912 )
25,..... (756 )
53, ... (233 )
55, .... (207)

If naish makes it to pick 13 (1212 - 20% = 969.60) and then he gets a bid, we can cover him with picks 25 & 55.
If he costs us two of our first three picks, i would prefer to pass.



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DirtyDogTiger said:
17, .... (1025)
20,. (912 )
25,..... (756 )
53, ... (233 )
55, .... (207)

If naish makes it to pick 13 (1212 - 20% = 969.60) and then he gets a bid, we can cover him with picks 25 & 55.
If he costs us two of our first three picks, i would prefer to pass.



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No. As I said we have to use our direct next pick ie 17. You can't bundle any old picks to get the points value now.
As Gia further explained the leftover points then goes to a later pick valued at the leftover points ie pick 69 is worth 49 points
 
BrisTiger24 said:
It's appropriate that we have Pick 17 in 2017, a premiership year for the Tigers. I'm calling it now. Based on all the omens to have come so far this year, I'm tipping our Pick 17 to be a Brownlow Medallist.
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I agree he will be awesome so much luck going our way pick 17 should be a star
 
caesar said:
Willo what is the scenario if someone bids at 16 and we have to use 17 less our 20% discount, (giving us excess points), does this come off our next pick 20 or at the back of draft???
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I wasn't too sure of that myself mate. There was some confusion.
But Gia kindly clarified. The excess points then go to a pick value ie
Pick 16 = 1067
less 20% =212
1067-212= 855
Our next direct pick 17=1025
1025-855=170 points excess
Points table has pick 58 valued at 170 points.
So we use pick 17 on Naish and get pick 58 back.

I hope my maths is correct and that explains it
 
willo said:
I wasn't too sure of that myself mate. There was some confusion.
But Gia kindly clarified. The excess points then go to a pick value ie
Pick 16 = 1067
less 20% =212
1067-212= 855
Our next direct pick 17=1025
1025-855=170 points excess
Points table has pick 58 valued at 170 points.
So we use pick 17 on Naish and get pick 58 back.

I hope my maths is correct and that explains it
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Thanks willo
 
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