Pick 12 discussion.

[tigerlove]

I think I've settled on Weller personally. I don't know what exactly it is with Cockatoo, seems a bit manic, disposal in highlights at least looks a bit iffy. Ellis, just doesn't seem to have the same outside run that Weller provides. Wright if available, surely you'd take him? But reckon he'll go a bit before our pick.

 

[Stylo]

I think I've settled on Weller personally. I don't know what exactly it is with Cockatoo, seems a bit manic, disposal in highlights at least looks a bit iffy. Ellis, just doesn't seem to have the same outside run that Weller provides. Wright if available, surely you'd take him? But reckon he'll go a bit before our pick.

You'd assume so, surely he won't last. Far too talented.

Of those most likely to be available my preferences are Wright > Duggan > Weller > Durdin > Ahern > Cockatoo > Ellis

Frankly despite him being my 7th preference I'd still be happy with Ellis

 

[mtench]

What about next years crop of kids, are there likely to be many Cockatoo/Xfactor kids around? this might make a decision this year re taking a tall (wright/Durdin) this year no?

 

[GEDS1]

Gee the junior coach of Ellis gives him a big wrap called him an absolute star. Maybe his injuries effected his season, at least we know our guys have been watching these guys since U16

 

[Rfc4Ever]

What about next years crop of kids, are there likely to be many Cockatoo/Xfactor kids around? this might make a decision this year re taking a tall (wright/Durdin) this year no?

Don't think we should be thinking a year ahead.

IMO we should pick best player available. If its a tall, then we go mids with our next 3 picks.

If its a mid then no worries.

 

[Tigertough1974]

Don't think we should be thinking a year ahead.

IMO we should pick best player available. If its a tall, then we go mids with our next 3 picks.

If its a mid then no worries.

We all know they are looking at 14-18 year olds, I don't think you can bank on next year for picks even when you know what's there, it's hard enough to get it right each year without pre emoting who you will select next year...

 

[T-Shirt Tommy]

Gee the junior coach of Ellis gives him a big wrap called him an absolute star. Maybe his injuries effected his season, at least we know our guys have been watching these guys since U16

Where did you hear this GEDS?

I'm always wary of coaches spruiking their potential draftees.

 

[Tigertool]

Where did you hear this GEDS?

I'm always wary of coaches spruiking their potential draftees.

I remember Dayle Garletts WAFL coach jumping up and down about how he needs to be drafted because he's over all his personal issues.

Also Nick Stevens saying Tim Membrey should absolutely be a lock for a top 10 draft pick.

 

[GEDS1]

Where did you hear this GEDS?

I'm always wary of coaches spruiking their potential draftees.

It was in that piece that was done for the 5 lads coming out of Keilor Blues footy club. He sounded like he rated him higher than Laverde.

 

[Scoop]

Like you have alluded to previously I think that decision will be taken out of our hands, West Coast are likely to take pace, it will be either Weller or Cockatoo, we simply grab the player who is left.

Tend to agree but I would take Wright ahead of Cocky.

 

[tigerdave]

It was in that piece that was done for the 5 lads coming out of Keilor Blues footy club. He sounded like he rated him higher than Laverde.

Good article and yes i agree,the coach seemed to like Ellis more than the other boy's!

 

[evo]

Reading between the lines on the AFL website our preferences are Duggan, Weller & Ellis in that order, but it does suggest we'll take Wright if available (which I doubt).

That order seems right.

Duggan would be a nice solid pick at 12. Good by foot, composed and knows how to find the pill.

 

[evo]

I don't see the Eagles passing up pace. They are in the same boat we are, I think they will go for pace. But definitely a midfielder.

The closer we get to this draft, the more the order changes. It's the most wide open draft in years.

there seems some pretty good prospects at #12. As long as we dont do a JON/Conca like reach I think we'll do pretty well. Duggan, Weller, Ahern or Cockatoo( if we wanna go the x-factor pick) will be fine with me.

I'm pretty relaxed this year.

 

[bullus_hit]

That order seems right.

Duggan would be a nice solid pick at 12. Good by foot, composed and knows how to find the pill.

But still very outside, he hasn't played on the ball at state level or at VFL level. I don't like making assumptions about late season TAC form, Lennon had one of the most impressive 4 weeks at the tail end of last year, Vlastuin also put in some huge performances. Does that make them guaranteed midfielders? Absolutely not, you don't learn to be a midfielder in half a dozen games, against boys no less.

Duggan really struggled against Collingwood reserves, he is a long way from joining the rotations. He will have a good career but he will spend 2-3 years in defence, he's the perfect replacement for Newman if we want to be realistic. That isn't necessarily a bad thing but I question whether it should be our top priority.

For me it has to be either Weller or Cockatoo, either will do, Wright would be great but he won't get past Geelong in my opinion. Weller is also likely to go to West Coast. That leaves us Ellis or Cockatoo, presuming GC take Duggan. The choice coudn't be easier in that situation.

 

[evo]

But still very outside, he hasn't played on the ball at state level or at VFL level. I don't like making assumptions about late season TAC form, Lennon had one of the most impressive 4 weeks at the tail end of last year, Vlastuin also put in some huge performances. Does that make them guaranteed midfielders? Absolutely not, you don't learn to be a midfielder in half a dozen games, against boys no less.

Duggan really struggled against Collingwood reserves, he is a long way from joining the rotations. He will have a good career but he will spend 2-3 years in defence, he's the perfect replacement for Newman if we want to be realistic. That isn't necessarily a bad thing but I question whether it should be our top priority.

For me it has to be either Weller or Cockatoo, either will do, Wright would be great but he won't get past Geelong in my opinion. Weller is also likely to go to West Coast. That leaves us Ellis or Cockatoo, presuming GC take Duggan. The choice coudn't be easier in that situation.

I'm only going on the championships but Duggan looks like a midfielder to me. Someone mentioned Dal Santo- thats who he remineded me of as well.

Just because he was taking the kick outs doesnt consign him to being a back line distributor for the rest of his career. All it says to me is that his junior coaches reckon he is a great user by foot.

If we take Weller or Coackatoo, thats fine, but they are riskier choices IMO.

 

[The_General]

For me it has to be either Weller or Cockatoo, either will do, Wright would be great but he won't get past Geelong in my opinion. Weller is also likely to go to West Coast. That leaves us Ellis or Cockatoo, presuming GC take Duggan. The choice coudn't be easier in that situation.

For all the noise in the thread about who to pick, this is the crux of it for me.

Which midfielder will slip assuming cockatoo and Weller are taken before us? I'm not assuming Ellis is as bad as some have made out (the phantom drafts etc are saying quite the opposite), but I agree he's another Vlaustin type pick. I want Vin Diesel, I want some "X" factor.

 

[bullus_hit]

I'm only going on the championships but Duggan looks like a midfielder to me. Someone mentioned Dal Santo- thats who he remineded me of as well.

Just because he was taking the kick outs doesnt consign him to being a distributor for the rest of his career. All it says to me is that his junior coaches reckon he is a great user by foot.

If we take Weller or Coackatoo, thats fine, but they are riskier choices IMO.

He spent 80% of the time in defence, he won 1 clearance a match, his contested ball ratio was much lower than many of the other highly ranked mids. His agility & speed also has me slightly concerned, this is where Dal Santo compensates for his lack of pace. Weller is the one who plays like NDS, I actually see a lot of James Aish in his football ability, he knows how to hang onto to the ball until the right moment, his footballing IQ is exceptionally high. Once he puts on another 5kg he will be the complete midfielder, Duggan is a long way behind Weller in my opinion. As a rebounding defender he'll be great but his ceiling will be Kade Simpson not Dal Santo.

 

[evo]

We will see I suppose.

You've acknowledge that GC may well take Duggan at #8, so I dont see how he's such a reach at #12. ;D

 

[bullus_hit]

We see I suppose.

You've acknowledge that GC may well take Duggan at #8, so I dont see how he's such a reach at #12. ;D

It's a very even draft, hence it will come down to needs and also that intangible interview process, Duggan was the star of the show where that's concerned. Weller has already blurted out that he wants to play in Melbourne and be with Maverick, I can understand why GC & GWS have gone completely cold. West Coast may roll the dice on him given they have a wonderful track record of keeping players, we'll just have to wait and see. I don't mind Duggan but I prefer the pacy options, I would even take Ahern ahead of him.

 

[Scoop]

We will see I suppose.

You've acknowledge that GC may well take Duggan at #8, so I dont see how he's such a reach at #12. ;D

GC just got Malceski to go with McKenzie, Harbrow down back. Not sure they have a need for Duggan. I see them maybe pulling a surprise and taking Durdin. Still think they need one more tall. And like Wright, Durdin is falling for no real reason. Great prospect.