Pick 12 discussion.

[Stylo]

Why would that go out into the public domain?

What do you mean? It was a user upload.

 

[FitenFitenWin]

What do you mean? It was a user upload.

Lost me there.

 

[Stylo]

Lost me there.

I don't know what you mean.

 

[GEDS1]

No way McCartin falls to us the kids a gun and with his work ethic he'll go 2 or 3 to Melb for sure. Grundy dropped because hes an out and out ruckman, if anybody drops it will be Wright.

Agree but I was saying don't be surprised and same with Durdin. A real mystery this draft I'm enjoying the lead up.

 

[spook]

Anyone keen on De Goey? If Weller, Ahern, Pickett, Laverde are gone, it's out of De Goey, Garlett or Duggan for me. De Goey looks like a player who could dominate a game with his will.

 

[St Kevin]

Anyone keen on De Goey? If Weller, Ahern, Pickett, Laverde are gone, it's out of De Goey, Garlett or Duggan for me. De Goey looks like a player who could dominate a game with his will.

If we are picking De Goey or Duggan are we picking them as specialist half back flankers, or as guys who could graduate to the midfield rotation?

If it's the former I'd like us to pick Garlett/Cockatoo at 12 and then one of Gore, Miller, Blakely or Neal-Bullen at our second rounder.

I think we address our needs more if we do this. Pace and electricity in the forward half is a bigger need than rebounding off half back (even though we do need to add to our stocks, Drummond perhaps?).

 

[GEDS1]

Anyone keen on De Goey? If Weller, Ahern, Pickett, Laverde are gone, it's out of De Goey, Garlett or Duggan for me. De Goey looks like a player who could dominate a game with his will.

Maybe right there but Cockatoo is the better.

 

[Mr Magic]

Maybe right there but Cockatoo is the better.

Agree, shame he doesn't fit the safe recruiting model we have adopted since the JON disaster. West Coast keen so may be already gone.

 

[spook]

Maybe right there but Cockatoo is the better.

Oh yeah, add Cocky to my list.

If we are picking De Goey or Duggan are we picking them as specialist half back flankers, or as guys who could graduate to the midfield rotation?

If it's the former I'd like us to pick Garlett/Cockatoo at 12 and then one of Gore, Miller, Blakely or Neal-Bullen at our second rounder.

I think we address our needs more if we do this. Pace and electricity in the forward half is a bigger need than rebounding off half back (even though we do need to add to our stocks, Drummond perhaps?).

I reckon Duggan and De Goey are both midfielders. I wouldn't touch Drummond; much prefer someone like Garrett McDonagh.

Oleg Markov is one with pace and skill we might be able to grab in the third round.

If we get:
12 - Cockatoo/Garlett/De Goey/Duggan
33 - Gore/Smith/Maynard/McKenzie/Bampton
52 - Markov/Anderson/McLean
70 - Anderson/McDonagh/Goodyear

we'll have done very well.

 

[Stylo]

Anyone keen on De Goey? If Weller, Ahern, Pickett, Laverde are gone, it's out of De Goey, Garlett or Duggan for me. De Goey looks like a player who could dominate a game with his will.

I reckon he's a solid fall back option if those guys are gone. Seems like a versatile, dependable type but not particularly high production, kind of like Vlastuin (not at all a bad thing). I spose considering that, we might be in a position to take a risk on someone like Cockortwo.

I'd prefer Weller for sure and Duggan marginally though.

 

[Letsroar]

If Ahern & Weller not available go for Cookatoo. Admittedly it could be a higher risk option than some others but we need someone who can provide us a different option. Cookatoo appears to be just that. Really like the fact that he was BOG on the biggest game for the year. We need players who stand up in big games. Judge players on their performance in big games not on easy wins

 

[Scoop]

With our third pick I hope Lucas Webb is in the mix, I'm a fan.

Same with Aiden Anderson.

 

[Gus]

With our third pick I hope Lucas Webb is in the mix, I'm a fan.

Same with Aiden Anderson.

Shouldn't get past pick 40. Could go mid 20's. Slight query on his pace but his agility is terrific. A few teams are keen.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Gentleman what is the quality of all these mids that will go from pick 12 to 50 ? reading about them they all seem top 10 worthy, are we talking a lot of solid B graders or are they simply varied talents like every year.

Wouldn't mind if we landed a couple of indigenous lads, besides there speed an skill having them drafted together may well help with settling into the big smoke an AFL life

 

[bullus_hit]

Gentleman what is the quality of all these mids that will go from pick 12 to 50 ? reading about them they all seem top 10 worthy, are we talking a lot of solid B graders or are they simply varied talents like every year.

Wouldn't mind if we landed a couple of indigenous lads, besides there speed an skill having them drafted together may well help with settling into the big smoke an AFL life

Don't think they're being talked up unreasonably, this year there's a glut of key position prospects so naturally the second tier mids will drift down the order. The inside players such as Blakely, Neal-Bullen, Gore, Bampton & Miller are all well credentialed footballers, the chances of a lengthy AFL career is high, despite each having some minor limitations. In the case of Blakely, it's kicking depth & outside capabilities, for Neal-Bullen & Bampton it's speed, for Miller it's height, for Gore it's overall production levels. None of these factors are deal breakers but they will be marked down as a result.

As for the indigenous lads, there's some absolute beauties in this draft, Cockatoo, Pickett, Ahern & Garlett would all look great in a Richmond jumper. I'd even consider Clem Smith with our third if he was on the table.

 

[Stylo]

I'd even consider Clem Smith with our third if he was on the table.

I'd be comfortable taking Smith at 33 if Miller, Gore and Neal-Bullen are gone. His poor kicking is overstated IMO, there's nothing wrong with his technique, he just rushes a bit at times and his execution isn't helped by poor fitness levels which will obviously improve. Certainly not short on talent

 

[Mr Brightside]

Don't think they're being talked up unreasonably, this year there's a glut of key position prospects so naturally the second tier mids will drift down the order. The inside players such as Blakely, Neal-Bullen, Gore, Bampton & Miller are all well credentialed footballers, the chances of a lengthy AFL career is high, despite each having some minor limitations. In the case of Blakely, it's kicking depth & outside capabilities, for Neal-Bullen & Bampton it's speed, for Miller it's height, for Gore it's overall production levels. None of these factors are deal breakers but they will be marked down as a result.

As for the indigenous lads, there's some absolute beauties in this draft, Cockatoo, Pickett, Ahern & Garlett would all look great in a Richmond jumper. I'd even consider Clem Smith with our third if he was on the table.

Thanks Bully

 

[bullus_hit]

I'd be comfortable taking Smith at 33 if Miller, Gore and Neal-Bullen are gone. His poor kicking is overstated IMO, there's nothing wrong with his technique, he just rushes a bit at times and his execution isn't helped by poor fitness levels which will obviously improve. Certainly not short on talent

He's a funny one, he actually played much better last season, his clanger count at the carnival this year was through the roof. You're right about the technique assessment, don't see anything that couldn't be remedied, it's more to do with decision-making all things considered. The big issue with Clem will be fitness, he really needs to put some serious work into building up the tank. If a club can get his endurance levels up then they will have a very eye-catching footballer on their hands. He's a bit of a boom-bust prospect I'd be hesitant to use our 2nd rounder but a 3rd rounder would be fine.

 

[Stylo]

He's a funny one, he actually played much better last season, his clanger count at the carnival this year was through the roof. You're right about the technique assessment, don't see anything that couldn't be remedied, it's more to do with decision-making all things considered. The big issue with Clem will be fitness, he really needs to put some serious work into building up the tank. If a club can get his endurance levels up then they will have a very eye-catching footballer on their hands. He's a bit of a boom-bust prospect I'd be hesitant to use our 2nd rounder but a 3rd rounder would be fine.

Yeah fair enough. He'd probably be about my 5th preference at our 2nd so not to say I'd love him there but wouldn't be totally against it. I just love his aggression and he's got a good goal sense - just keep him away from the back half.

 

[Stylo]

Would people be upset if we took Blakely at 12? Surprised there hasn't been a bit more discussion about this tbh. Seems a very FJ thing to do :hihi

Honestly I'd be pretty happy with him there, would prefer him over Ellis and a few others anyway. He's been playing good football in the WAFL seniors. Anyone know how he tested at the combine?