As I stated previously, the mad mullahs and Iran are the major force behind these terror groups and all the unrest. Fighting a war by proxy.
It’s easy to see.
How much money have the Middle East (and other) countries given to the Palestinian cause? Many, many $billions
How much has actually been used to improve conditions for the “everyday” Palestinians? *smile* all. It goes on building terror tunnels and weapons and Hamas leaders lifestyles.
Theyre the real enemy of the Palestinians. Hamas doesn’t give a fig about the death toll as long as they keep power over the Palestinian people. They only have one aim.. Israel’s destruction and the eradication of every Jew living there. Zero care for their own people. The end justifies the mess in their eyes
I can absolutely see this POV and you are correct, but there is only so far defending yourselves go.
I agree that Hamas are an enemy of the Palestinian people, but there are a few things to take into account here, why are they there? Israel controls all monies that end up in Hamas hands, why have they allowed the money transfers to occur, its because ISRAEL WANTED HAMAS IN POWER as they didn't want the PLO to gain more power, as Israel ultimately want to retain control over Gaza. In other war zones across the world, who provides the controlling troops to secure those war zones and borders, the UN do, so why have Israel been so focused on controlling it themselves? Its not because they want to be nice to their neighbours, they have wanted to control them and ultimately reduce land occupation of the palestinian people.
Now onto the attack on Gaza. I have no problem with Israel defending themselves when attacked, no problem at all, however the methods that they are using are not surgical. Put it into context with other recent conflicts. Various reports around the Afghanistan conflict have named direct civilian deaths from military activities at around 70k up to 2023, so thats in around about 20 years, 70k civilian deaths. We don't know how many of the 24k deaths in Gaza that are Hamas members as neither side publishes them, but we do know that more than half of those killed have been children, so its safe to say at least 12k civilians have died, thats in 3 months of war, compared to 70k in 20 years! Yes a lot more people died in Afghanistan from the factions there, and famine etc (thats coming to the people of Gaza unfortunately), but the sheer volume of deaths in these 3 months is way out of kilter with other conflicts, and just shows that Israel's purpose is not surgical, but complete destruction. This breaches many of the Geneva conventioins that are in place to protect civilians when war breaks out, but they just frankly do not care.
I saw a report on the BBC website about 2 hostages that Hamas says were killed in an Israeli bombing. Israel claims they didn't kill them because "they didn't target the house they were in". Correct me if I'm wrong, but Israel have not released any hostages through force yet, those released were in prisoner exchanges and there have been numerous reports that Israel do not know where exactly they are, so how can they say they didn't hit that house because it had hostages there. It doesn't make sense and just stinks of Israeli propoganda.
The final thing that gets me with this, is Israel claims that there aren't attacking Palestine, they are going after Hamas, yet they continue on a daily basis to take land in the West Bank.
These contradictions are what people identify as what is wrong in the Israeli argument. They are not seemingly trying to take out Hamas, but kill anyone that is in their path, and if this is about Hamas, then shouldn't they be leaving the West Bank alone??
To be honest, if Israel were surgically attacking Hamas in Gaza and they weren't imposing on the West Bank, then they would probably have a lot more support than they do, as everyone can see the Palestinian people would be better off without Hamas, and ultimately the way to prove to the Palestinian people that the solutions Israel propose are better for them (and ultimately for Israel by stopping the daily rocket fire into their territory) are for them to protect civilian life, and improve their lives under a non Hamas run government, but they continually show that that future is no better or potentially worse, which all that will do is drive more and more people into extremism. If their desired outcome is peace with the Palestinian people, then this is not the way to do it. If their desire is to destroy Gaza and control the rebuild and take more land, then this is absolutely the way to do it.
