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https://www.pm.gov.au/media/joint-statement-prime-ministers-australia-canada-and-new-zealand


Finally the Australian government have done the right thing and voted for the cease fire. The US and Israel are getting more and more isolated.
The press release together with NZ and Canada actually says nothing more than what has been Australian government policy for a long time
Good to see we have grown some balls on this
Interesting. As you say the US is becoming more isolated in the world stage and for good reason. Trudeau has been quite vocal about this issue and it's good to see Albo has joined him to an extent.
 
Interesting. As you say the US is becoming more isolated in the world stage and for good reason. Trudeau has been quite vocal about this issue and it's good to see Albo has joined him to an extent.
I see we have got the expected response from Sen Patterson. Zoe Daniel has also indicated her support for the vote which is politically brave given where her electorate of Goldstein is.

It is hard to know because the circles I live in are generally in line with my thinking but I feel like the Australian public sentiment is moving away from Israel. I may be wrong
 
Good move.

Fewer and fewer people are falling for the bs USA, UK and Israeli narrative that they've been fed the last 60 years. Time for Israel to be brought to account for their behaviour over that time.
 
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Good move.

Fewer and fewer people are falling for the bs USA, UK and Israeli narrative that they've been fed the last 60 years. Time for Israel to be brought to account for their behaviour over that time.
UK abstained which is actually a move forward for them
 
A lot of hot air from the woke leaders. Net & Joe are not going to take such crap in. Actually if Hamas & Co wiped Israel off the map would not you blokes have nice Xmas. You do not give a crap about the Israeli's or the Israeli's who were slaughtered by Hamas. I see Khawaja testing out the water when he knows he cannot have those words on his boots when playing under the auspices of the ICC.. If he is told to remove them see if he has the guts to say he will not remove them.
 
https://www.pm.gov.au/media/joint-statement-prime-ministers-australia-canada-and-new-zealand


Finally the Australian government have done the right thing and voted for the cease fire. The US and Israel are getting more and more isolated.
The press release together with NZ and Canada actually says nothing more than what has been Australian government policy for a long time
Good to see we have grown some balls on this
Yes, good to see but if the press release has been Aust govt policy for some time, do you know why we abstained from the October UN General Assembly vote on a ceasefire?
 
 
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Yes, good to see but if the press release has been Aust govt policy for some time, do you know why we abstained from the October UN General Assembly vote on a ceasefire?
What I was referring to was the commitment to the 2 state solution and the illegality of the settlements as being government policy. Both are mentioned in the joint statement.
Both of those are based on UN resolutions which Australia supported and I believe that has had bi-partisan support.
I assume the government thought the right for defend yourself was acceptable within that context but I assume now we are saying it has gone too far.
That’s the only thing I can think of
 
What I was referring to was the commitment to the 2 state solution and the illegality of the settlements as being government policy. Both are mentioned in the joint statement.
Both of those are based on UN resolutions which Australia supported and I believe that has had bi-partisan support.
I assume the government thought the right for defend yourself was acceptable within that context but I assume now we are saying it has gone too far.
That’s the only thing I can think of
Fair enough. Anyway, I'm just glad Australia voted in favour this time.

This was the voting yesterday:

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Compared to the vote on October 26th:

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The problem is Israel and the US care about the U.N and what it thinks about as much as China and Russia do!

The idea of a ceasefire is rainbow and unicorns and if we are all honest its only aimed at Israel, Hamas wont stop firing rockets therefore it kicks off again.
 
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https://www.pm.gov.au/media/joint-statement-prime-ministers-australia-canada-and-new-zealand


Finally the Australian government have done the right thing and voted for the cease fire. The US and Israel are getting more and more isolated.
The press release together with NZ and Canada actually says nothing more than what has been Australian government policy for a long time
Good to see we have grown some balls on this

Albanese calls for an immediate end to the Mesopotamian War of 2700 BC

 
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I am certainly not condoning the tactic that Hamas used of murdering innocent civilians but the reality is that if Israel achieve this there will still be borders with Palestinians on the other side, they will just be in a different place. There will be Hamas supporters in Egypt, Hezbollah is still in Lebanon. In many ways it will be more dangerous because they will not be able to control supplies to the more radical elements of Palestinian statehood as they do now.
There is only one solution that will give Israel any long term peace and that is to make peace.
That is a long way off.
Sin I have long liked your posting on PRE.
Big fan and I understand your viewpoint.
Your posts about Hamas do seem to be "Yes,but".

In my opinion Hamas attack on oct 7 was an act of war not terrorism. It was perpetrated by the territory govt.
And sadly Hamas has consistently shown they dont make peace.
 
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