SCOOP said:
Interesting that when I did a write-up on Vlas I highlighted the fact he rarely registered over 20 touches at TAC level, seems to have carried that forward into his senior career.
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Interesting that when I did a write-up on Vlas I highlighted the fact he rarely registered over 20 touches at TAC level, seems to have carried that forward into his senior career.
bullus_hit said:
You must have been worried first 7 games of his career where he registered 20 touches or more in his first 7 games. Not sure what's happened since then but obviously it's not all about possession counts anyway. Also I've noticed when looking at TAC stats that very few players in any given game seem to get more than 20 touches. Not sure if the games are shorter or what the reason is. As an example in TAC Cup Grand Final only 5 players out of 44 managed more than 20 possessions.
Out of the draft of 2012, of all youngsters that were recruited, Vlaustin has played the third most games, 38, behind Wines on 48 and Sam Mayes on 39, so he must be doing something right to be given so many AFL games at this stage of his career.
bullus_hit said:
Had 20 twice and 22 once for the year. And he's not winning clearances or massive amounts of contested ball. I was hoping he would evolve along the lines of Jack Ziebell but at the moment there has been very limited time in the midfield. That may be because we are short of quality down back and we are drafting a Liam Duggan to take that role and push Vlas further into the play but I would hope to see a change in role and a spike in clearances & contested footy.
Leysy Days said:
To be fair he's got a little more chance than Andy Collins being the next Lenny Hayes. ;D
tigerlove said:
Not worried at all, just surprised at his early form. Teams would be increasingly more aware of his limitations, he's never really presented as a ball magnet.
As for TAC players, don't think that's correct at all. Guys like Ollie Wines & Toby Greene both suffered from leather poisoning as juniors, they haven't missed a beat since hitting the big time. It's also true that players who don't really rack up big numbers as juniors struggle to increase their output as AFL players.
bullus_hit said:
What I am saying is most players do not rack up more than 20 possessions regularly, sure there are exceptions and of course those players are more likely to rack up more possessions at AFL level. Wines for example was always considered to be AFL-ready due to his build. Maybe we would have taken him if he didn't go #7. Maybe we would have taken Toby Greene if he hadn't gone at #11 by GWS (or 13 or 14 by GWS). Vlaustin also played his TAC representative games on the half back line so obviously this will affect possession counts. I have no doubts Vlaustin will eventually be a strong inside midifelder for us but he's earning his stripes atm. I think his early form showed what he's capable of but maybe he had to change his game style defensively maybe, I don't know.
tigerlove said:
Part of the reason Vlas didn't play midfield was due to his tank, he is still only half way there as far as aerobic capacity is concerned. As a TAC player he did in fact spend a fair bit of time in the middle, it was in the u/18 carnival that he was used primarily as a flanker. That particular year I believe he notched up 20+ touches twice throughout the season, he was more noted for his 1%'s and defensive pressure. Frank post draft actually made reference to the fact that Vlas would be a bit slower out of the blocks than other draftees, this is proving to be correct. As to his upside, I think he'll be a valuable player in the long run, not fussed if he doesn't become the next Luke Hodge, more concerned about his credentials as a potential premiership player.
Vlastuin is another option we have to send up forward.
Has shown he is a good mark and can kick goals.
Vlastuin's first play of the year was a fantastic running effort from half back which ended up with him receiving the ball and kicking a great goal - I want to see more of this attacking play.
Smart player who is composed and tough and generally makes the right decision.
Would much prefer having him in the midfield and up forward the only problem is who replaces him in defence.
Has shown he is a good mark and can kick goals.
Vlastuin's first play of the year was a fantastic running effort from half back which ended up with him receiving the ball and kicking a great goal - I want to see more of this attacking play.
Smart player who is composed and tough and generally makes the right decision.
Would much prefer having him in the midfield and up forward the only problem is who replaces him in defence.
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antman said:
Geez ant a little precious aren't we? You seem to have no trouble giving your POV to anyone who bothers reading it.
