This could be the arm that blocked him, but WTF are these flogs looking at anyway. It is Nank's fault for not been on Gawn. At least Broad tried.
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Ah cmon. That’s not a block. Please. My 82 year old mother in law could block better than that. The ball is also a mile away from being marked and he has ample time to spoil.
Yeah Broad. Not Vlastuin.
Yeah he was late to the party. We all love his efforts but has too many brain fades at times.
Happened right below us. The guy in front of me watched the build up closely. Vlas and Broad told Nank to move away and that they had Gawn covered. Nank at first said no and according to the guy in front Vlas told him to move off to the "pack" to the side.
Note: He didn't do that in the last and outmarked Gawn at least twice.
Note: He didn't do that in the last and outmarked Gawn at least twice.
Gee, that last pic sure as hell looks like the Melbourne players are holding the Richmond defenders back from the contest. That has never been legal but it happens all too often these days and is a blight on the game.
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I reckon that is reasonable- you want your ruckman free to come over and spoil, rather than be tangled up on the line, potentially out of play.
Nank just got it wrong. He was blocked, a little, but he still should have impacted the contest. he looked like he lacked awareness so once his run was impeded just a touch he couldnt get where he needed to be.
and on Nank V Gawn. we beat them every year ( i think) from 17-20. When we were the better team. They have beaten us since, when they have been the better team. Gawn is a great ruck, but when we were good enough he made no difference to the result.
He made no difference to result?
WTF??
If he was playing for us and he was up against Nakas & Naismith we wouldve won.
He was roving his own taps.
Nakas is cooked.
Time to plsy Mr invisible Samson
That's waht I saw, td. He definitely walked at times during the Melbourne game. Conspicuously. I reckon it was later in the game. Maybe for the final 45 minutes. Up until then I thought he was good and we had Narrm's measure in most stoppages.
I'm not sure why he stopped running. Conspicuously. It seems very odd to me. I would assume injury. In 2022 when Nank stopped jumping it was because he was unhappy with his PCL. Burge said at the time that Nank's PCL was as good as it was going to get. But still Nank would not jump. He resumed jumping on 2023.
I am mystified by the non running and injury is my best guess. Corkie? Calf? Maybe soleus. We'll find out.
I reckon Nank was out of position, anyway, wasn't he, tl? Too wide?
That said we don't have defenders who can spoil even rucks at this stage. Gawn should have been easily covered by somebody.
Nank miles lout of position IMO, tf. Way too wide. The shot is after he realised he'd got lost. Was wide of the point post when Gawn took position.
Yeah too late to the party. Kudos to Nank for his efforts but too many brain fades as we need a smarter ruckman in the future Jack. I can see it in Samson already a bit.
I think the Sampervan is still a ways off, tf. I'm just having another look at the Magoos game.
My suspicion is that Nank got a corkie or something in the Melbourne game and dropped off. I reckon he as ok for most of the game. We all agree that he was hopeless later in the game.
I don't mind if you disagree. No need to apologise, you have every right to your completely, utterly, totally, 100% wrong opinion.
I understand why fans would want to see Samson in the ones. So do I. When he's ready. But this argument "We'll only know if he'll make it if we put him in the ones, NOW!" is just wrong. We're developing Samson. Not for next week, although that would be nice. For the next 10 years. If he's not yet commanding the space under a high ball at VFL level every time - and he's not - why would you think he'll do it the level above?
Players can improve in the twos. It's a good place to work on weaknesses and build confidence. Samson lacks confidence standing under the high ball. Holding front position. He can do it, he just doesn't quite do it every time, yet. So we challenge him to do it every time at the lower level, against lesser, smaller, lighter opponents. To build his confidence that he can do it. And so he learns that it is non-negotiable.
Samson wants to play AFL football. He thinks he should. (He's right.) But we want him to be the best he can be. If he thinks that sometimes standing strong, sometimes collapsing, is good enough, that's what he'll do. No. Stand strong every time. Nank does. Gawn does. Naismith does. McInerney has an eighth of Samson's talent, but he does.
Samson knows what he has to do. He just has to do it. Every time.
The problem is that when Naismith is playing VFL Samson only plays relief ruck. This week he played ruck because Naismith played seniors.
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Samson's not going to develop as a ruck when Naismith is given first ruck duties in the VFL. He's only been first ruck when N was in the firsts. Samson needs to be the priority. N won't be in our next finals team.I don't mind if you disagree. No need to apologise, you have every right to your completely, utterly, totally, 100% wrong opinion.
I understand why fans would want to see Samson in the ones. So do I. When he's ready. But this argument "We'll only know if he'll make it if we put him in the ones, NOW!" is just wrong. We're developing Samson. Not for next week, although that would be nice. For the next 10 years. If he's not yet commanding the space under a high ball at VFL level every time - and he's not - why would you think he'll do it the level above?
Players can improve in the twos. It's a good place to work on weaknesses and build confidence. Samson lacks confidence standing under the high ball. Holding front position. He can do it, he just doesn't quite do it every time, yet. So we challenge him to do it every time at the lower level, against lesser, smaller, lighter opponents. To build his confidence that he can do it. And so he learns that it is non-negotiable.
Samson wants to play AFL football. He thinks he should. (He's right.) But we want him to be the best he can be. If he thinks that sometimes standing strong, sometimes collapsing, is good enough, that's what he'll do. No. Stand strong every time. Nank does. Gawn does. Naismith does. McInerney has an eighth of Samson's talent, but he does.
Samson knows what he has to do. He just has to do it. Every time.
It's not about rucking. He's good at rucking. It's about being strong under the ball. Holding front position in a pack. He gets plenty of practice doing that forward. And if he's in the ones he won't have first ruck duties. When Naismith's in the ones he does, though.
Tony Braxton-Hicks
There are no stupid ideas, just stupid people
Not nearly enough practice when playing mostly as a forward. Yes, he'll be predominantly forward in the seniors. Lefau will appreciate someone else standing under the ball with him.
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